More 3D Stuff

December 15th, 2007

I've been playing in 3D a bit more... This time using particles to control the destruction. It is a bit less precise, notice the overlapping of the first 2 letters, but it is much more robust when using hundreds of pieces.

Basically the text is broken into chunks. They are then turned into particles which "fall apart". As they fall apart they emit more pieces or chunks so that it looks like pieces are flying everywhere.

In another test, I used reactor to build the base simulation and then had those pieces emit debris. Essentially making half of the composite reflecting real physics and the other half using particles to cheat physics.

Andrew Kramer

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18 years ago

106 Comments

Atlanta Video Production

15 years ago

Looks awesome! How are you so good at EVERYTHING

Mariano

17 years ago

tutorial please

17 years ago

Hey Andrew,
about 3dsmax destructions, you can find some tuts here:
www.deko.lt

delali

17 years ago

if ur using 3ds max...try seting the texts as individual objects rather than typing in full in the text space in the create rollout. then give them individual masses. that way they wont pass through each other. when they come in contact... they bounce off or knock each other over..(using reactor that is)

DaniK

17 years ago

it would be really cool if u could mix 3ds max and after effects and create a combined
tutorial like the blood cell ones from earlier..i think they are very good and packed with good stuff to learn!!
happy new year!!

Superville

18 years ago

did anyone else wonder what the word was before andrew shattered it?

jamsven

18 years ago

U have to check out Blastcode for this.
Its a maya plugin for explosions and really fast.

jose

18 years ago

great job man, u are so inspire... please put some 3dstudio max tutorials, the way u explain things is so easy, better than those dvds, by the way if u dont know by now, check Allan McKay dvds, are good but a little hard to follow.
thanks man
viva ecuador

fmw

18 years ago

Hey. Great work throughout your products and tutorials. Another nice MAX fracturing tutorial using Particle Flow in Max 6:
http://www.allanmckay.com/tut/test.swf

Ali

18 years ago

Excellent Job
will like to see if you do more

Thanks....!!!!

Nate

18 years ago

I know u r using 3dmax but if you do a tut on this we can still follow along with C4D right?

Shadow

18 years ago

that's amazing! can't wait for the tutorial

Niklas

18 years ago

AWESOME!!!!!!! PLZZZZ make more 3d tutorial

ale

18 years ago

PLEASE MAKE A TUTORIAL OF THIS!.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!
:^D

18 years ago

That's too bad you're sticking with Max, you've just shut out your Mac users from this wonderful 3D.

Ammar Aziz

18 years ago

verry nice job..but can i ask how to get the 3d project of this tutorials..thanks

Angel

18 years ago

What tools are you using to learn 3DS MAX?

ATB

18 years ago

Looks great! I would love to see this in action. And see the tutorial of course!

Helge Kallevik

18 years ago

People please, we're all anticipated and horny!

casko

18 years ago

cant wait anymore i need this one :|

i refresh the site every 5 minutes lol

andrew u rock, first with AE, now with 3D, u rulez man

fersh0

18 years ago

tutorial tutorial tutotial!!!!!!!!!!!!

William

18 years ago

anytime now

casko

18 years ago

andrew are you alive?

Connor

18 years ago

Perhaps on the 17th?????

(I'm in UK so today is the already the 17th!!!)

k, looking forward to it....

Taaly-Ã©Â±Â¼

18 years ago

wow!!!!! so good ..what i have ever see... come on ~~

Codemonkey

18 years ago

Hey Andrew,

I was wondering why this blog has no hit counter.... Just curious to see how many people hit it per day.. I frequent it at least 5 times a day for any update etc etc...

Why not add an RSS feed?

Just an idea...

GREAT WORK by the way!!

And as for all the impatient dudes on here waiting for your next tute, chill... all good things are worth waiting for..

LIFETYPE

18 years ago

ID GIVE MY KIDNEY TO HAVE YOU TEACH ME THIS . YOU TURN 1 YEAR OF SCHOOL INTO 1 WEEK OF VIDEO TUTORIALS .. I SERIOULY THINK YOU WOULD BE THE BEST TEACHER EVER ... IN A FORMAL SETTING .. BUT YOUR ALLREADY THE BEST BY FAR IN THIS SETTING

casko

18 years ago

waiting

Homer

18 years ago

Hey Andrew, this looks rele cool, but im confused...is this done in 3ds max or in after effects?

Can't wait for the tutorial!

Legacy

18 years ago

naim alwan - I'm digging it. Nice job.

Andrew - I'm loving all the tuts, and I'm really liking the 3D integration. This is exactly the kind of stuff I've been looking for. Check out the 3DS Master Series volume 7: Film Effects. It's got a nice tutorial about making a fireball shoot down the aisle of a plane. Can't wait for this tutorial and hopefully LOTS more 3d integration. Thanks.

Legacy

naim alwan

18 years ago

@ illegalD

It didn't start out as a music video it began as a poem with some visuals, that might be why the music isn't that good. It took about 8 months to do but most of that was wainting for ram previews.

Could someone explain what Maxon Mograph is For?

Swicked

18 years ago

WOWOMGROFLAMO! This is going to be the best tut!! I share the fetish of smashing things up to Andrew!

Connor

18 years ago

Possibly the tutorial will be ready for later on today?

casko

18 years ago

plz plz plz tutorialllllllll PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Tim

18 years ago

Some clothsim would be great too. Here is a sample of a real creative use:

http://motionographermedia.com/psyop/Gifts_1_G_FX_Sm_Prog.mov

Tim

18 years ago

I'm so glad to hear that you will be sticking to Max!

I read 3D World Magazine and they have tutorials in something like 10 different 3D apps. The bottom line is that if you really want to do a certain effect, you will figure it out in your own 3D application if someone shows you the basic outline.

This looks like it will be a great tutorial. I think you try not to use 3rd party plugins, but setting it on fire with Fumefx would be cool too. (I know you used Particlar in a tutorial, so who knows...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6jmhHmkRoA

pretty cool stuff

illegalD

18 years ago

Its gonna be a nice xmas, blowing up bridges and stuff

@Naim: Thats a really cool and professional Video you made!!!

Although I dont like the Music that much, I wanted to see the whole Video.
The look is awesome

How long did you take for this?

Raoul

18 years ago

Oh Andrew! You bastard! I can't wait much longer when post images like this! YOU THE BEST, NO DOUBT! Brotherly love!

morten enoksen

18 years ago

"BTW, Iâ??????m sticking to 3D max. But if there is something cool that is better and easier in C4Dâ???¦ Iâ??????ll use that."

Okey.. SO u'll stick to 3dsmax, but can you atleast explain a possible way for us C4D users to accomplish the same effect?

naim alwan

18 years ago

@ AK

Keep up the 3D work, no matter what others say, eventualy they will realise its importance.

Could someone explain what Maxon Mograph is For?

Please check out my music video, i adapted about 16 of your online tutorials and used your RiotGear productâ???¦. i couldnâ??????t have done it with out you (AK) and the copilot crewâ???¦

Please give me some feedback guysâ???¦.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaJfTo4pN04

Thanks and happy after effecting.

Navod

18 years ago

Sorry guys i mean 'I' ... hay check this out ..
Even digital-tutors follow andrews Tutorials .. i mean they even taken ideas from
andrews Basic Training Tutorial

..

http://digitaltutors.com/dtv_/z_poster/ps_maya14.mov

Andrew rules

Marc

18 years ago

Hy Andrew,

greetings from germany. Cool to see you playing around with Max. One tip from my side. When destroying things in Max or other 3D applications, you need very much time to render such effects and have less influence on the result. Instead of using Max to build the debris I recommend to do that in AE. In my works I used just the basic destruction created in 3D and all the dust and particles were filmmaterial or particles. Very nice reference for this go around is the making of from "Black Hawk Down". Check that, you will see....

Greetings Marc

Migha CG

18 years ago

Go Andrew! Blow up that Bridge!

This one is going to be awesome

Ron Crockett

18 years ago

Just wondering if you have heard of Blastcode?
http://www.blastcode.com/

Andrew and Co. simply the finest work
Thnx

John Paite

18 years ago

Andrew, Im saying thank you beforehand..I'm gonna learn so much from your 3Dsmax tuts..Sometimes I can watch 10 hrs of dvds and learn nothing but watch your 10 mins of tuts and learn alot more. Ur a good teacher..Sensei

CEdric

18 years ago

Hey, I've used 3ds max, and I'm pretty sure it uses the havoc physics enginge, yes, just like in Half Life 2, and the source engine.

Here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havok_%28software%29

I'm just saying, unless it's being rendered or physics sim. Just saying...

russ

18 years ago

Andrew,

if you could sum up your 3d modeling technique and how you are able to look at or visualize an image and transfer it into a 3d app in one or two sentences, what would it be?

Josh Johnson

18 years ago

Sounds good Andrew teach the program you know best. I have C4D but who cares I can still learn from 3ds max tut. Aslo, the AE compositing part will be awesome no doubt! So glad you are tapping into 3d vfx.

Naim Alwan

18 years ago

@ AK

Keep up the 3D work, no matter what others say, eventualy they will realise its importance.

Please check out my music video, i adapted about 16 of your online tutorials and used your RiotGear product.... i couldn't have done it with out you (AK) and the copilot crew...

Please give me some feedback guys....

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qFJT_ya5fVg

Thanks and happy after effecting.

asd

18 years ago

maya > max > xsi > lw > 4d > blender

Andrew Kramer

18 years ago

It is the one I know better...

Connor

18 years ago

WOW.

I seriously can't wait for this tutorial...

hope its soon...

Steve

18 years ago

.....just a matter of opinion when it comes to the 3D apps.

kimohno

18 years ago

i really cant wait for seeing a finished destruction and i really hope for a nice Beginner Tut like for AE hehe

Just Amit

18 years ago

i just have to kno... is there ne thing u can't do?

video-fx-universe.com

18 years ago

yes 3d max is the best app out there for the public market anyway. You will find most fan films are made with max

Mr Higgs

18 years ago

how about a little maya love?

Scott

18 years ago

Hey Andrew, just stick to 3DS Max, it's a cross between Cinema and Maya, it's the medium skilled 3D app, but very powerful IMO.

Andrew Kramer

18 years ago

BTW, I'm sticking to 3D max. But if there is something cool that is better and easier in C4D... I'll use that.

Andrew Kramer

18 years ago

This website is about visual effects and motion graphics. This week 3D, next week who knows. If you guys want to get into more impressive Visual Effects, this kind of stuff is essential. Undoubtedly my 3D stuff will be hinged around After Effects compositing so don't worry. When the 3D part is playing just turn your head.

Don't be afraid...

ghost

18 years ago

Hi,

Andrew, try to increse the number of vertices in your meshes and play around with the settings of collide-event parameters. It will take more time to compute but it will crash precisely. I do some 3D FX work for local film companies and I mostly use 3D Studio Max with finalRender and Particle Flow system - never used the standard things, because I'm used to think event-driven

... keep up the good work with AE here, 3D comes in handy sometimes, but its more an addition besides the core of what this website is famous for !

Steve

18 years ago

Hey Andrew....will we be able to follow this tutorial using Cinema 4D or is it just for 3D MAX?

thanks man!

video-fx-universe.com

18 years ago

you spelt debris wrong lol. I use the particle array to create explosions and i agree it isn't always accurate, it just needs to be tweaked well. I created a tutorial on how to blow up a planet using the particle array. Have a look

http://revver.com/video/529419/affiliate/131540/how-to-blow-up-a-planet-in-3ds-max/

Just Amit

18 years ago

looks so good, can't wait!!

Juliano Pajaro

18 years ago

Andrew,
I'm so glad, you're using 3D MAX.
I'll like to see some GOOD tutorials about 3D in your site.
By the way....
When you are going to release the DVD posted..."Online Tutorial DVD Almost Done!
November 30th, 2007"
In this DVD are you going to include some 3d tutorials???
Thanks!!!

Another guy

18 years ago

3D rulezzz

adam k.

18 years ago

holy sh*t! this is gonna be massive haha.can't wait!

Abe

18 years ago

Ya, Navod who is we? Your multiple personalities I presume. And why is everyone begging for petes sake? People NEED to chill out and let the man perfect his teaching skills, JEEZ!

David

18 years ago

andrew, you should make a 3D christmas tree

Some Guy

18 years ago

I think great time is coming. Now where is my old 3ds Max 8 disc...

Tim

18 years ago

It would be a great addition to this tutorial if you could also figure out how to correctly export the camera data to an RPF sequence with extra channel info and then bring it into AE for some post effects.

russ

18 years ago

which version of 3ds max are you using? i just bought 2008 version and i hope that i can learn a thing or two from you about it.

eebc

18 years ago

TUTORIAL!!!

Superbad

18 years ago

Who is 'we'? I don't mind coming on here, and seeing some 3D stuff. Andrew Kramer is a talented guy, in more than after effects. Theres over 50 after effects tutorials, thats enough to wow me. AND on top of that theres random cool stuff, like post's about 3D. And plus, if you take motion graphics and such seriously, you will learn knowing 3D is really helpful in getting a job. And sometimes its essential. Sure, there are sites where you can see 3D stuff, but now you can come to ONE site, for cool 3D and After effects. Pretty neat IMO.

Dan

18 years ago

I think its great to have here AE and 3D tutorials
andrew explain both very nice and easy to follow and im sure people can find a use of these 3d tutorials with there work in AE
so keep up the tutorials for both of them

Navod

18 years ago

I agree with ' NweVCPoster ' , I know that andrews AFX tutorials are non second to anyones in the plannet ... That is why i visit this site. But for 3D there is a million sites out there .. I like what you are doing , arr but We like AE stuff better , cos ur a AE God ! ... keep up the good work , and hope to see more AE Magic from you then 3DS work

putemonsteret

18 years ago

great! can't wait for a tutorial

morten enoksen

18 years ago

ANdrew, looks cool. If you're gonna show us some tutorials on this 3D stuff, please show it in Cinema 4D also! You told us that Maxon has paid you to do some tutorials, and you managed to do the 3D text so good in C4D!

Think about us C4D users to

Merry Cristmas

henri

18 years ago

Would be nice to see tutorial about this

me!

18 years ago

man, that looks totally awesome!
It would be great to mix this kind of effects with 'real footage'... you know... a wall exploding in 3Ds max,
add it to the real footage (sam running away from the wall) xD... some color correction.... and.... yeeha!

tommie12P

18 years ago

that is looking very nice. But what about a tut? we are waiting...

Andre Prior

18 years ago

How about a tutorial about this????

tashi

18 years ago

pleae tut ....thanks in advance....free tibet

Nikolay

18 years ago

Stop teasing

post a tutorial already.

griffo

18 years ago

I'm glad that you are having fun with your test.............. really

Doug

18 years ago

Looks super cool!

brennan

18 years ago

Im envious of you! share your knowledge!!!

Tuan

18 years ago

look awesome!!! want my name to be broke like that

is that 3ds max?

tut + project file please =p~ !!!

toni

18 years ago

is there going to be some tutorials on this subject?

Suvir

18 years ago

Totally wicked....

orcman2

18 years ago

Tutorial.

Andrew

18 years ago

the suspension is killing me. can't wait for this tutorial, looks great

18 years ago

We have decided to buy all your products! My Team/Crew will have the greatist christmas ever. Danke!

Trevor

18 years ago

JT,
I'm not sure you've done this or not, but your comp setting needs to be set to square pixels, otherwise it kind of works in an anamorphic kind of way. Square pixels will give you exactly what you see in after effects.

And, Andrew, this is looking very cool.

Dustin James

18 years ago

I am extremely excited to see how much more professional you are shaping to be... and willing to share...

Thanks Andrew for inspiration.

Floris

18 years ago

Crap, that's so cool. I'm dropping down on my knees and begging you for s tutorial right now.

Paddymazz

18 years ago

Really nice work Kramer.

Looks some-what complex.

REPLY TO fersh0:

3D Max I presume (As he mentioned in previous posts)

fersh0

18 years ago

tutorial tutorial tutorial!!!!

are u using 3dsmax or cinema 4d??

NweVCPoster

18 years ago

Well, I really wish I could say WOW!
But this is not what I was looking for while browsing VC website
No offense but are you not a AE site?

Anyway other than that, I guess I can say whoopie!

Kenjamin

18 years ago

can we see the videos of these renders please?

Judd

18 years ago

Tut

18 years ago

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i checked also the "hi res" version of that image ...1211px x 539px .
Is that a random size from max or it was exported from AFX? ...
Could you give us a few tips about how to export from AFX to that kind of resolution?
i mean .....I tried to create a widescreen composition with PAR anamorphic 2:1 and in my previews window look fine but when i export, it's not that wide at all .
Thanks AK ....

Walter Alvarado

18 years ago

Andrew, i guess this look almost like the best tut u r gonna do,
GREAT!, keep up the good work.

Fonzie

18 years ago

this looks so awesom!

Daniel Reynolds

18 years ago

NIcely done!!

tinyphizh

18 years ago

awesome! I cant wait to se some tutorials on this and more!

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