Glass Snow Orbs...
December 11th, 2009

Well I started making a snow globe with CC sphere inside of After Effects... then I started playing around with reflections and then I ended up with this video. There are some interesting techniques for creating the glass reflections so I may release a project file or even do a tutorial. You can never have too many Orb-based tutorials :)

Everything was created with default plug-ins too!

Watch Test Video HD

Andrew Kramer
POSTED:
16 years ago
221 Comments
Stefano
15 years ago
Congratulation from Italy... I thisnk I will never reach you... Anyway please go on... you are a great target to follow... bye
mishan
15 years ago
WOW. It's very Nice.
William R. Cousert
15 years ago
Glinda? Is that you?

Btw... Lynda.com is looking for people to do tutorials. You should think about doing an advanced AE series for them. Might be a great form of advertising for this site.
Katherine Klebek
15 years ago
Oh my gosh that is BEAUTIFUL. You haaave to do a tutorial on this
Nic Bathgate
15 years ago
Incredible... this is the most impressive thing i've seen on VCP, and that's saying a lot!

PLEASE make a tutorial on how you did this, i'm sure I could use the techniques in a thousand of my projects!

Wow
Emeka
15 years ago
Nice one.wud really luv 2 c hw u did dis one.
15 years ago
looks amazing please do a tutorial!!!

Jonathan
15 years ago
Can you make a tutorial for this one?
LUIS M
15 years ago
Amazing! Make tutorial please
Respect
15 years ago
beautiful! Just Beautiful!
Luis
15 years ago
Amazing, tuto plz.
Loay Emad
15 years ago
I want it a tutorial
Of course not the 100th (as it'll be AWESOME) but it can be 101th
Fernando
15 years ago
You did this on After Effects?

Amazing!

Waiting for the tut.
Phil
15 years ago
please a tutorial... please!!!
15 years ago
heh, looks like the poison orbs from "The Rock"
Rajeev Malik
15 years ago
Andrew what u r? ur immegination gr8... I hv't word 4u....
costasp
15 years ago
please make a tutorial for this, it's AMAZING. I'm very curious about how it can be done...
Xander
15 years ago
This is the greatest thing I have seen today.
15 years ago
Andrew Kramer,
Thank you,
Thank you for everything...

This is truly amazing! And you are so generous as to share your ideas with your Awesome tutorials...
You have no idea how much you've helped me...
But I'll show you when I have completed my Personal Hobbie Projects.
You Are - The Dude! ~ lol
Later Drew!
15 years ago
hope to see a tutorial to this very, very soon!
Chris.
Mikko Hassinen
15 years ago
That's sooo freaking cool!
Govinder Singh Manku
15 years ago
This looks Brilliant.... PLEASE MAKE THIS YOUR 100th Tutorial...

OR.... Please could you introduce some more camera tracking/matching tutorials... perhaps using Boujou! or Syntheyes?

Also.... wishing you a brilliant christmas... hope you take off some time to spend with your newborn.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Govinder
15 years ago
That's some high quality.
boihitcar
15 years ago
Great Video!! I really like your work.. and its inspiring bout yout tuts..
plk
15 years ago
So far i've counted 100 requests for a tutorial! This is the 101th!
Rafael
15 years ago
Very very very nice Plug in,awsomme!!
Jan
15 years ago
Hopefully the legendary 100th tutorial is about how to make those
They're soo great Andrew *_*
15 years ago
Sweet, Andrew) Sure the tutorial will be great!
15 years ago
Hey,Andrew thanks so much for all your awesome contribution to the world of motion graphics.Specially in developing my own graphics know how.Needless to say i found your glass-orbs fantastic...and i couldn't wait to go ahead and make one myself.And since u haven't posted a tutorial just yet on this mine kinda fell a little short on the realism department.anyway,i hope u will check my effort.this is the url: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXhxO_57uJI.ofcoarse any feedback from u will be welcome.take care & thanks again & looking forward to the tutorial.
Tvrtko
15 years ago
ha! I'm trying to make a video Christmas card for my clients and I was just fumbling about with CCsphere and trying to pick up something from your tutorials and then I come across this... please Santa Andrew, we've been good... ok, maybe not, but I was really... umm... tall this year and... and I even read the posting rules and refrained from begging for a tutorial, and that's gotta count for something
Frederik
15 years ago
Hey so nice job! can you make it look like is is the universe that we are zooming in through?? that would look awsomme!
Brad
15 years ago
impressive...most impressive
Winston
15 years ago
Yes, please make a tutorial. Trying to reverse-engineer a project file is not always helpful to those of us AE-challenged fans of VCP. Thanks.
15 years ago
Plzzz Make a Tutorial for that I need to know how to do that
Dan
15 years ago
oh my, this looks amazing!! please make this your next tut. this is just incredible looking. it looks like it was made in 3ds max or something
15 years ago
Sorry, I am idiot. DOF is based on the layer positing.
15 years ago
Hi Ak,

Is the DOF faked? CC Sphere is not AE camera aware right? Please tell us how you got the soft shadows
15 years ago
Nice very nice reflection..
sunil(Nepal)
15 years ago
U R TOO GOOD ANDREW.....BETTER THAN THE BEST........
Wolkeris
15 years ago
It's amazing !
15 years ago
WOW - I totally need a tut for THIS - AWESOME
15 years ago
i'm new to AE but i really learn a lot from u bro....thanks...
Amazed
15 years ago
One word.... TUTORIAL !!!
Maxstudios
15 years ago
its like the ball of Harry Potter and the Order Of The Phoenix
Surendar Kshatriya
15 years ago
Its Awesome... Eagerly waiting to see this in your Tutorial List.
Michael M
15 years ago
can you please post a tutorial asap on this? im in the middle of editing a christmas music video for a song i did and the video needs to be done by the 17th or 18th of dec lastest and this would be a great effect to put in with the snow globe thanks andrew
Antwan
15 years ago
Hey Andrew... thats really cool! Leave us a project file or even better, a tut!
15 years ago
very nice
never knew AE is capable to do this kind of stuff
Saul
15 years ago
nice man always looking forward to your tutorials
i want to major in stuff like this what was your major in college?
15 years ago
Love what ever you produce Andrew. So sick!!!! Long live Andrew Kramer!
Andrew Small
15 years ago
Yes! that is absolutely AMAZING!!!!!
I am hoping for a tutorial on this one!
15 years ago
suuweeet! Hope you find time to do the tut. Ideas are already spinning.. get it? Spinning? Nevermind.

fireworks
15 years ago
lol!

very candy spheres, great optic.

cant wait for the tuts!
P3
15 years ago
Make a tutorial Please
Alejx
15 years ago
How about a tutorial about this?
Fortune Lauture
15 years ago
The demo is nice and I think the tutorial will be nicer!
bernard
15 years ago
te quedo chido carnal...
saludos desde mexicanporqueri.
15 years ago
Hey Andrew or anybody!

I would like to know the name of the software that you use to capture the screen! thanks
15 years ago
my god. that's. amazing. i can't believe that's only after effects. you sir, are the man. who knows what the next 100 tuts will bring!
Derek
15 years ago
My god!! I wish to green-screen an angry man trapped inside there with a bad temper because it is just too damn cold. I think Rita and Zedd were damned in there in the Power Rangers movie!!!! Very pretty nice work!
15 years ago
Hey Andrew,

Your new Video has motivated me to play around a bit. Got real close to your results, but I'm still wondering how you got the lighting done. Thought about layer styles at first, but after taking a second look at your video, I can't figure out how you've gotten that 'sphere-like-lighting' to work with normal lights. Looking forward for your Tutorial I'm just missing some transparency in your example... and don't forget the caustics of course! Hrhrhr ^^

Greets
M@rtin
15 years ago
Good Work dude!!!
Brad Gillespie
15 years ago
So after watching this about 20 times, i attempted to recreate it. i got the same basic layout as u, but i just cant get that "glossy" feel to it. looks amazing, now, i really wouldnt mind a tutorial.
chris
16 years ago
Tutorial, please!
Rogier Colijn
16 years ago
Is the reflection made with VC reflect?
jim hines
16 years ago
Wow! That is spectacular. All in AE huh?
16 years ago
When you say "playing around" how many hours of play is that exactly?
Lebo
16 years ago
Oh Yes - a tutorial please!
AR
16 years ago
Looking awesome as always my friend but no tutorials until "Optical Flares" is done and on the shelves for me to BUY!
16 years ago
Amazing as always!

Maybe put a snowman in there for a festive holiday-themed tutorial.
LadyArwen
16 years ago
Andrew, you are brilliant. Those cristal balls are like totally terrific. Love it. You could definitely read the future in those^^. Even though I usually do not believe in that stuff.
Anyway, I'm looking forward for the tutorial .
Chris
16 years ago
wow, that's freakin' gorgeous! ...but where are the lens flares?
vonG
16 years ago
I can't wait watching that. Really realistic...pls tutorial Plllleeeaseeee god AK.
Connor Guyler
16 years ago
PLEASE DO A TUTORIAL ON THISSS!!!!!
Les Drake
16 years ago
100 here we come Happy Birthday ( and Xmas )
Its like waitimg for santa to come down the chimney with your presents. ( what he does'nt, nah tell me its not true)
Johann Torres
16 years ago
that looks so cool!
16 years ago
Iâ??????m curious about the render times...
Damy
16 years ago
I vote for a Tutorial. Would be awesome to send this in a online christmas card to my dad.

Your really insparational Andrew. Thank you for that.
notsorealfx
16 years ago
Impressive! Tutorial, Please!!!!!

Thank you for everything Andrew.
Niko-ALF
16 years ago
OOOoooohhh man this is awesome...very coool Graphs... I hope a tutorial... Regrads from Colombia Andrew!
fxdesca
16 years ago
wow, amazing. A tutorial would be great !
16 years ago
The dark prince (david bowie) from Labyrinth would love to see a tutorial on how to create those bad boys!
H-nitro
16 years ago
wohoa! that is something rly, keep your chin up!
kadirbilgin
16 years ago
lookin awesome beautiful
16 years ago
sexxxy, coulda sworn it was 3d
junior
16 years ago
that's real cool man
Paul Martinez
16 years ago
WOW, default plug ins you say? Thats amazing. Teach me please.
Brian
16 years ago
Yeah, that looks amazing. You should definitely do a tutorial... although it would probably be a pretty short one. Keep up the good work!
John
16 years ago
This is unbelievable. I can't believe how good you are at this. I am making a short film and this kind of effect is exactly what I need. Please make a tutorial.
16 years ago
Pretty Slick Lookin
16 years ago
You never cease to amaze me Mr. Kramer.
That looks so real! Is it possible to put an object in the orb?

This actually reminded me of this Eristoff Black commercial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2uORg32640
James Allen
16 years ago
Do a tutorial Andy this is soooooooooooooooooooo cool
16 years ago
Just magnificent, like it will be 100th tutorial.
FutureAlexx
16 years ago
Impressive Mr. Kramer! Can't wait for the tutorial/project file.

Maybe two orbs.

Best running gag ever. ^^
16 years ago
Awsome Andrew!!!! You always please with the best stuff!!! Can't wait for the tutorial!

Phil
Olympia Logger
16 years ago
?

Is that AE or 3DSM !?!!
Rob
16 years ago
Hhhhmmmmm.....did you link an expression to the camera and the orb?
16 years ago
wow very nice! love it
Dustin
16 years ago
Yeah I've been playing with it all morning and can't seem to get the smooth reflective surface of the orbs down for some reason. It's probably something simple I'm overlooking. Thanks for posting it though its been fun going trial and error, learned a few things about luma mattes I never noticed before.
Christian
16 years ago
They look so real! is it possible to put objects inside them to? like a snowman? you should definitly make a tutorial!
Junior
16 years ago
That only looks totally amazing Andrew.
16 years ago
Yes, a tutorial would be great. PLEASE do one! I already see so many different ways to use it.
16 years ago
Wow i can't believe that was done with all built in plugins! And a tutorial would be great! and i can't tell for sure but did you use the normaily plguin on this?
Oliver
16 years ago
CC Sphere? What? HUH?.. How?
Tristan Barnard
16 years ago
I whole heartedly believe that you should do a tutorial on this. There are so many things it can be applied to!
Ron in Calgary
16 years ago
Just another reason why www.videocopilot.net is my home page
Greg
16 years ago
Hey Andrew- that looks pretty great! Hard to believe it was all done without the use of a 3D app. Would love to see a tut on this one. Really nice work.
Sreejith Antony K
16 years ago
Wow Nice and Superb
plz publish the Xmas gift(TUTORIAL)
Tom
16 years ago
Tutorial Number 100 must be EPIC!!! I'm not sure this will suffice... Good idea for number 101 though
Zak
16 years ago
but please make a tutorial will be very great
ned Flanders
16 years ago
holy cow. that looks like it was done in a real 3d program. i applaud you, good sir....
16 years ago
Nice. Would be awesome to have this as one of the tutorials in the upcoming tutorial collections you're making as a Christmas gift to us and to celebrate tutorial number 100. 'Cause you ARE doing that, right?
Zak
16 years ago
beautiful Andrew actually i love it
ivan
16 years ago
wow that was awesome
Rob
16 years ago
that's insanely cool....!!!
16 years ago
this is legit Krames! Now lets see a plethora of tutorials released just for everyone's Christmas present? eh? eh?
Jorge
16 years ago
Exelente maestro.
Skully
16 years ago
maybe the snow partikles should not be that sharp when they start falling down, maybe a little bit distorted because of the glass on the top, too.

I think you had a static camera fad in while moving, maybe it's better to move and fade in/ out same time, because while moving from the first glass or to the second everything is just bloured instead of the floor.

But everything else is realy nice.
Great job as expected.
vante
16 years ago
hey great...you know what you should do...is tease everybody with clips like this and then have a contest to see who could reproduce something like that WITHOUT a tutorial first...you've taught us all alot from your site...we should be able to come up with something...I'm sure it would spark some innovation and challenge all noobs...thank you for the creativity
J
16 years ago
YES YES YES...a tutorial on this would be excellent.
McKenzie
16 years ago
Man that was amazing. I see how you might have made the floor. But how did you get the glass so perfect? The CC Glass effect tends to give a weird line right through the middle of the object a wrap it around.
16 years ago
Awesome man! You've GOT to do a tutorial on that one!
16 years ago
THAT is After Effects? Holy cow I can't wait to see what I can do with it!
Roberto
16 years ago
niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Greets from Romania
16 years ago
Sorry for the bad english .. You do not want to do a tutorial of space travel, or at the
atmosphere? would be great! Do not think AE tutorials on outer space at
Internet, to do some ships traveling at the speed of light, like in Star Wars.
16 years ago
WOAH

That was releastic !
We all love a tutorial

So hey , lets wait
16 years ago
Very Very Very Excellent!!! Congratulations!!!
16 years ago
Those look so real! I can't wait for the project/tutorial!
Alessio
16 years ago
You know what they look like? Palantirs...
16 years ago
WOAH!!!! Awesome! I hope to see the tutorial on this one soon. I am anxious to see how you got the glass look to come out so realistic. This looks amazing Andrew!
16 years ago
TUTORIAL 100!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jason Kazor
16 years ago
That is very uneqe
Googleman
16 years ago
Well done!
But we are still waiting for upcoming 100th tutorial!
Good luck!

Ukraine
Craig
16 years ago
What is this ...it is horrible, crap, the worst thing I have ever seen. You are really losing it.

Not really I just thought you needed a post that balanced out all your worthy praise. You know you rock Andrew.

Merry Christmas!
Rafa
16 years ago
You are extremely talented and creative.. your simply the best.. and to top it off, you help all of us by sharing your techniques.. THANK YOU ANDREW!!
aalex
16 years ago
time for a new tutorial dude !
it looks really awsome, i'll try to rebuild it this weekend
16 years ago
Beautiful and classy! Hope to see the tutorial.
Would be cool if it didn't have to be glass snow orbs too, but maybe ink drops freezed in time.
16 years ago
These orbs are awesome. But you should put a little snowman inside . Just kiddin, it looks really great, I hope you are going to make a tutorial on this... looking forward to it
delman
16 years ago
I think tutorial #100 will be like a x-mas present. what do you think?
16 years ago
I'm just blown away by how good this looks! I have some idea how you did it but the actual execution of it seems like magic to me, the details! It's overwhelming!
Anthony Herrington
16 years ago
Wow!! Hopefully this becomes a tutorial in the very near future... be great to put on my wedding video!! Thank you VCP TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!
16 years ago
Wow incredible Andrew! If I had seen that video anywhere else I would of bet money on it being done in a 3D program, simply amazing what you can do with AE with the right know how and inspiration.
Really awesome I want to make something like this. Cant wait
mistvan
16 years ago
Awesome...kinda looks like there's a sliver of blue energy thing inside the globe, though it's probably not. Would be cool if it would be inside it though.
Nice one Andrew as always!
Simon Steele
16 years ago
WoW! It looks amazing!
nivek
16 years ago
looking good

cant wait for the tut
16 years ago
que delicado se ve... muy bueno Andres Kramer!
illd
16 years ago
wow - beautifull work and it looks real. Andrew, I hope you could share your worklflow on this with us - I swear you want see any copy of this on youtube, at least from me
16 years ago
Amazing and Great As Always

hopely 100th tutorial out soon!
sw_double
16 years ago
sooo nice, please do a tut!
Brett Perry
16 years ago
That's a nice inspiration piece. Using particular (or another particle generator) and CC Sphere as well as some lens flares for the hignlights. Makes me want to try the effect in maybe 3D Invigorator. Thanks for the post - very cool.
Brett
16 years ago
wow wow wow wow please please please do a tutorial.
antony615
16 years ago
so beautiful~~~ btu no sound??Š.?????
Mytafan
16 years ago
Very cool!!! Good Job Andrew !!
16 years ago
Awesome ... ohhh my god ...
Andrew please make a tutorial ;D
dhanoman
16 years ago
Sire, you're the ish... Will welcome a tut. Keep it up all the best fro the season.
Chris
16 years ago
wow it looks amazing!
you gave me the first winter-touch this year
16 years ago
Awesome, that gonna be a great tuto Andrew, I'm wait it.
phil
16 years ago
CANNOT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Percival
16 years ago
Wonderful, I would love to see how you are protecting the particles from the orbs boundaries... Masks? Expressions? I think a tutorial is needed.

Thanks again.
-John
vidal
16 years ago
Great. I??´m waiting for the tuturial about that.
Comgratulations Andrew
16 years ago
How do you come up with all these great stuff? i been all over google and none compares to VC.net, men you are a genius "believe it".
16 years ago
U r a living legend Andrew....... Great Work.....
Martin
16 years ago
awesome I'll wait excited after this tutorial!
James Anderson
16 years ago
Excellent work Mr Kramer! Awaiting a tutorial in your own time! Already thought of a few uses for it!
itay
16 years ago
Waiting for the tutorial!!!
16 years ago
Looks really cool, can't wait for the tutorial.
c-r-u-x
16 years ago
Wow, does does look great - especially for an AE project!
Take it a little bit further and this could make for a worthy 100th Video Copilot tutorial jubilee.
A.S.
16 years ago
looks fantastic Andrew. I am wondering though if the reflection of the glass sphere would be in focus. The surface has to be glass or a mirror. Beautiful work. I like to see how you created the reflecting bright highlight on the sphere that is animated as the camera turns. I have not done much with the sphere creator in AE, so I assume it has an option for it.
16 years ago
Hey Andrew..
This is really cool but i hope project file will be compatible with Cs3
Thanks again..
Frenchy
16 years ago
Wow u're the FX master, I don't understand why your name isn't on big movies with great special fx.
Anyway, I really want to thank you for all the ideas you share because it's so ingenius, you could keep it for yourself but u didn't,u always posted tutorials.

U're the one and only who can make people beginning fx creators. Until June 2oo9 I didn't know AE, and I saw Florian vids and I liked it so I downloaded AE, AE is a really incredible sofwtare. I saw a link to your vids, from this day till now I check every day your website in order discover a new way to create FX.

I wish the best success in all your projects for you and your family and for us, your students and fans :p
Piotr
16 years ago
Awesome indeed. Anxiously awaiting a new tutorial. It would be an uncommon gift for Christmas;]
16 years ago
Wow,

the BG, the Camerawork and the Globe are a definitely worth the 100th tut.

Amazing... especially done only with AE??´s built in Plugs.

Greetings from Berlin
Klaas Kramer
16 years ago
This is a tutorial worth!

Nice done, color match is perfect.
16 years ago
That looks AWESOME!
16 years ago
What I'm most astounded by isn't the globe- although it's incredible- but the background, surfaces, and camera work. Can't wait for the tutorial...
16 years ago
Wow, very 3D-realistic. I actually thought you've 3D max or something but VERY nice it's possible to do this in AE
16 years ago
Wow, that's amazing. If you hadn't told me that it was all AE I would have never believed that. I'd certainly like a tutorial for this one .
krizZz
16 years ago
This is soo good! Say goodbye to real 3Dprograms (in this case) ! Would love to see this in a tutorial, although I can imagine how it's done, but the look is so awesome I wanna know all the details )
16 years ago
Definitely one for a tutorial.
16 years ago
THAT is awesome.

Good work Andrew!
16 years ago
really look amazing
Parkie
16 years ago
Nice video, Mr AK

Let me add my name to the list of requests for a tutorial for this one... I would like to use this to represent zooming in on rain drops, which would then contain rain drops, which would... etc - Russian doll style.
Qw3rtium
16 years ago
Looks delicious
Jan
16 years ago
Andrew so what if its orb based its still new techniques so, if you are thinking people will think that you are just concentrating on orbs, let them think so, tell them that u like it, but i believe whatever it is, it is the new techniques we want and we always will love it............thank you, hope youl see this
Hampus
16 years ago
yeaah!!!! that's the no.100-tutorial! *dance*
Lodie
16 years ago
Sick Andrew (as always)
Olivier-Mauritius
16 years ago
Awesome..... so cool
arkas
16 years ago
very nice, but where is the project file? lol
give it to me baby...
Teguh
16 years ago
Awesome!
I hope i can make it...
it's really nice...
16 years ago
Hey Andrew tut please I see my family shot with green screen and three of us next to each of the three orbs add Merry Christmas text and what christmas card video. Got to love it!
Tomas
16 years ago
This looks awesome!
Please make a tutorial! Whats in the background that you blured out? It looks totaly realistic? And how did you make the floor?

Love it!
16 years ago
damn you Kramer!!!!!

looking good sir, maybe would be enhanced by some optical flares?? ;o)

a
jackR
16 years ago
MUST. DO. TUTORIAL

Sheesh! Native AE?

I mean...sheesh.....
Vick1138
16 years ago
OHHHHHHHHHH! Pretty!!!
WaQAS
16 years ago
Great........As always
Thanks
Andrew
Adel Metzler - BR
16 years ago
perfect!!!
please tutorial!
s2 Andrew
16 years ago
Andrew, they look really lovely, real and that blur / focus effect works amazingly well. Awesome job, I am once again impressed!
Renzo
16 years ago
Awesome look.. I'm curious about the render times. Seems pretty intensive to render out in a 3D prog. Did you spare some time doing this in AE?
Elias
16 years ago
Hi,
nice VID. But where i became the CC Sphere??
mfg
Elias
john leigh, London UK
16 years ago
Hey Andrew thats looking pretty cool - inspiring stuff and right on the money for this time of the year! A tutorial would be well recieved for this approach....
16 years ago
Beautiful. Tutorial please!
codeAndreas
16 years ago
GREAT!

Like always..
16 years ago
looks cool... respect
Lars
16 years ago
astonishing! never thought something like this would be possible in AE alone!
16 years ago
nice ,one of the actors in this is my friend and see the use of AE 2 ON SPIKE TV.
http://www.spike.com/video/tali-bombed/3302189
sultan alrashdi
16 years ago
Perfect , waiting for the tut.
thanks in advanced.
Jeroen
16 years ago
Oh yeah! very nice!
16 years ago
Gerat work, thanks Andrew
16 years ago
Looking Great!!
Good work as always.
Bell, Bradley
16 years ago
Thats one for a tutorial, for sure. Hopely you make tutorial shortly , OFF THE EDGE OF MY SEAT!
Tamir N
16 years ago
*make a tut plizzzz*
Tamir N
16 years ago
make a ta plizzzz
Sliver37
16 years ago
They look awesome, nice work, as always
Marco
16 years ago
Wow this is really cool! I would love to see how you did that.
Bell, Bradley
16 years ago
Nice, hopely 100th tutorial out soon!
16 years ago
A terrific look Andrew. Your attention to detail is one of your great strengths. Best wishes, John.
16 years ago
Fantastic ... really nicely done
andi_s
16 years ago
look's fantastic, Andrew!!
Juan carlos Camacho
16 years ago
Wow these look so real!!!!!!!!
redux
16 years ago
yeah lookin awesome!!