World Position Pass for Element 3D: V1.6

Element 3D V1.6 has some cool new features and a bunch of stability and bug fixes.

One of my favorite features has to be the world position pass which allows you to create a 3D matte for compositing other layers with Element 3D Objects. Since Element 3D and plug-ins like Particular have their own 3D space, getting them to interact can be a bit tricky. But with the World Position pass you can easily combine Particle and stock footage in a snap.

Unlike a normal Z pass the World Position Pass does not rely on camera distance so your matte will stay spatially correct. Think of it as an XYZ-Pass!

With a normal Z-depth compositing you can only place a layer in front or behind objects in front of the camera. But World Position Mattes can be rotated and moved around with ease. A short tutorial will be released to show how easy this feature works and some other new features as well!

Element 3D V1.6 is expected to be released soon as a Free update.

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133 Comments

1 year ago
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Raiden
2 years ago
LOL! There was a troll on here. PANTURAL blah blah.. who cares brah, Kramer ftw! Yeaaaaahhhh buddy!
Simply 6
2 years ago
...and what has pantural TAUGHT u how to do? ...oh nothing? Then why is he even being mentioned here
Hero
2 years ago
very nice keep it up
peter
2 years ago
A compositors porn! :)
2 years ago
Andrew Kramer is best, no one is beater than Andrew Kramer hhhhhhhhhhhhh
    2 years ago
    i love metropolitan pack and the element 3d, Andrew i wanted to findout if you have plans of updating the metropolitan pack, if we can add more into the city scene like compositing cars, people in it. ?
Daniel
2 years ago
Hi Andrew. I'm really excited with you new tutorials for us using Element 3D. I know this is somewhat of the topic but I'd like to ask, where do you search for soundtracks for your video promos?
Reziko
2 years ago
Andrew Kramer is best . No Pantural ..
2 years ago
Hi! Andrew

Element 3D
Awesome plugin you have.

I am not sure, if it is the right place to post this.


The issue I ran into while using the element 3D.

As we choose face to camera option.
we see the object facing in top/left and rest of the views as well, instead, could it be just to the selected camera or the camera within the comp and appear normally to the rest views.

In my case. I was using couple of Deodorant bottle (total 5).
Due the above case, I was having a hard time aligning them in a "V" order. Many times I had to switch from "fixed" to "face camera".

Thank you
danmax
2 years ago
ok. enough with the stupid pantural topic. im here not because i wanna see that cool thing. im here because i wanna learn how to do that cool thing.
moving on. this is a nice update,andrew! kudos to video copilot people. please make element 3d more better because FOR ME, its one of the best AE plugin ever. thank you.
vaiari
2 years ago
hi guys, I think Andrew cannot answer this as he must be too busy - have you got any idea where this score/music comes from? it doesn't sound like Datsik- that's all I know. Any help will be appreciated. thanks.
basil iskandrian
2 years ago
AK,
this is a tremendous addition. the world position pass was exactly what i needed for my last project. using Element 3D and the Metropolitan City pack i was able to cheat the world pass effect due to the lack of parallax on the camera move and by animating the z depth parameters. however, the world position pass is exactly what the shots required. so nice to see this addressed so quickly and included in a free update.
The result can be viewed here https://vimeo.com/58455763
Element 3D/Metro scenes start at the :10 mark.
Thanks again for your vigilance and valuing the feedback of your user base so highly!
    Shawn
    2 years ago
    Basil, You video is fantastic! It's moving, imaginative, and engaging. I really enjoyed it. I want to show it to some friends. Well done! Nice work on the E3D stuff. I like your comments to Andrew as well.
stamina ec
2 years ago
've seen that you want to create the best plugin for ae

thank you
2 years ago
I use Element often, it is really a great part of my workflow/pipeline between 3D to comp! SO I thought I’d share back something I created – rendering/textured/compositing etc etc all Element 3D – AE! Here is the project - http://mattdippenaar.co.za/portfolio-items/uber-cool-new-logo-teaser/ Keep doing what you do best Andrew and VC team!
2 years ago
I use Element often, it is really a great part of my workflow/pipeline between 3D to comp! SO I thought I'd share back something I created - rendering/textured/compositing etc etc all Element 3D - AE! Here is the project -http://mattdippenaar.co.za/portfolio-items/uber-cool-new-logo-teaser/ Keep doing what you do best Andrew and VC team!
Fleur
2 years ago
Brilliant!! This is what I have actually been waiting for. Well not really waiting. I went and investing to a commercial version of Cinema 4D so I could do the exact same effects once this release is put out.
Turker Metingul
2 years ago
When you service a good thing continuously customers used to it and wait much more.Is there something can be around like improved texture and or polygon optimizer for any kind of obj. models.Thanks.
2 years ago
I would like to thank Patrick, Matt, Tino, Sergio, Bobby, Alexander, Dustin, Bryan, Marc, Vintila, Lupu and Sam for all their hard work in bringing such great products to market.

You are all Gods, innovators and magic wish granting wizards. Feel free to tell that your significant others when lying in bed at night so they realize just how important you are. We know it, and they should too.
cf
2 years ago
cool feature! does this means... we can use multiple layers of ELEMENT with 3d interaction between different layers? :D
does the new updates includes "copy/paste of render settings"?
Zura
2 years ago
Hello, Andrew can you please make tutorial to show how you made that blue energy like thing or can you please tell me which plugins did you use?
basherrehsab
2 years ago
hey Andrew Kramer

i request you to update INTEL (R) HD Graphics card into the new element 3D v1.6 because its corei5 but can,t process the element 3D

i will be so thankfull to you
Fabio
2 years ago
What can we say?? Thanks to you, the Greater Team!
chris
2 years ago
is there ever going to be an update which element 3D will generate particles or at least do fluid dynamics
2 years ago
Very cool new feature. The only improvement I'm REALLY hoping for is the ability to add more groups! It's too easy to run out before having to add more instances of Element and then trying to get the layers to not intersect with each other. Please just add that one feature and I'll be super happy!
2 years ago
I have this vision of Mr and Mrs Kramer lying in bed at the end of a long day, and it goes something along the lines of this...

Mr Kramer: Did you have a nice day honey?

Mrs Kramer: I did actually! Thanks for asking. You?

Mr Kramer: Oh yeah. let me read you a couple of things from the site, had some great comment today...

Mrs Kramer: Hmmm

Mr Kramer: Thanks for great products.
his work is funtastic.

Mrs Kramer: Oh, God.

Mr Kramer: Andrew Kramer is innovator
All hail Andrew kramer!!!!!
Sweet Andrew :*)

Mrs Kramer: Andrew, do we need to go through this every night? I get it.

Mr Kramer: Just a couple more honey.
Thank you magic wish granting wizard.
i wish i can talk to u for once mr.Andrew
You guys are great, and I mean that in a way better than Frosted Flakes.
I bless the day I heard about Vc and Andrew Kramer.

Miss Kramer: Give me strength, do we really have to do this now?

Mr Kramer: A couple more, nearly done.
I love you bro!!!
YOU GUYS ARE MAGNIFICO!

Mrs Kramer: Oh my God, get a room!
    Warren
    2 years ago
    M'lawd Edington: HILARIOUS!
    Klaus Brandenburg
    2 years ago
    Awesome!!! I'm sure Mr. Kramer has better things to talk with Mrs. Kramer But your little short story speaks a lot of truth about the comments here and the disparity between blog and forum. People should not forget that VC is a company with a bunch of employees. So when Element get's some new features this is due to Sergio Gil and I guess some tutorials reflect the ideas, concepts of workflows of one of his VFX and 3D guys too. I really appreciate Andrew Kramer for his body of work and his VC concept BUT he is not to be called god (unless founding a VC sect) or sir (before being knighted by the queen).
    2 years ago
    Sure, I know that. Although it was near enough a one man band back when it was just the initial tutorials, it's come along way since then and more employees have been coming on board ever since the release of Riot Gear. (I think the Energy tutorial had just come out when I discovered VC, back in 2008 - No OF or AE2 back then!)

    I think we can all agree that Video Copilot wouldn't be the company it is today, with such great products, if it wasn't for all the crew... but Andrew deserves a bit of Kudos for getting the ball rolling.

    I just find it funny... a stylized view of Andrew where he can't get his head through doors due to it's immense size from all the comments! Like he pops to the shop for some milk...

    Mr. Kramer: Morning shop keep, how are you today!
    Shop Keeper: Morning Sir, I'm good thanks. Business is going really well. And you?
    Mr. Kramer: Yeah, well I was referred to as a God yesterday. Twice. Beat that!

    The sound of tumbleweed rolling through the store. Andrew turns to leave.

    Shop Keeper. Erm, ok. You have a nice day now.
2 years ago
Man oh man, awesome. I've released so much work having to do this through precomps ontop of precomps and masks or skipping it altogether. So very thankful for this update!
Mads
2 years ago
Hello i dont go on blogs very often but i want to ask you something...
Could it be possible to make a puppet tool like feature inside Element 3d (or which works with Element 3d) ? that my friend could be sweet!!..

Loves from Denmark.

- Mads
2 years ago
Hey Andrew,does Element 3d v1.6 supper AI format file directly?
Norman
2 years ago
Very cool news Andrew, I'd like to ask, would you kindly make a tutorial about how to render those maps you need in order to import textured models into Element 3D? specular, bump, diffused, etc. That would be really, relaly helpful.

Thanks in advance.
    Toby
    2 years ago
    That would be really cool
    David
    2 years ago
    There are plenty of these tutorials on how to do this on YouTube. It's more a function of your 3d app and photoshop not element 3d.
    Norman
    2 years ago
    @David, There are also plenty of tutorials about how to use Rayfire, FumeFX, etc. etc... But the way in which Andrew explains topics (simply, effective, to-the-point, good results), not so much.

    So, I sustain my original request to ask Mr. Kramer for a tutorial about how to accomplish such task in order to make Element 3D shine.
giloz
2 years ago
hey Andrew i got a stupid question out of topic...why when i render something from 3ds max rayfire obj sequence and put it in element 3d makes it so slow to see one frame is it my computer or i have to do something...sorry for my english...thanks team
2 years ago
Hey! Thanks a lot for this, it can be very usefull...
Please, check this vid made 100% with Element 3D!
https://vimeo.com/54319512
ShahabG
2 years ago
I'm surprised this new updated came so soon after the previous 1.5
zsd
2 years ago
Something like deep compositing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_image_compositing
robb
2 years ago
Hope that it will come out soon and judging from what where in the 1,5,5 beta release if half of the new stuff are still in it's gona be a very cool update which means that you Andrew and your team will have to work super hard to make the 2.0 version (hoping this one will add shadows; deformers, a morpher, more options for the wireframe like to be able to show only quads instead of triangles, a better way to deal with transparency, full scene import meaning geometry + camera throught fbx or abc, a bit of physics, maybe rigging tools, more groups, more animation tools, more tools to help us organize ourselves in the ui like a comment case for naming each objects'parts instead of having those named after their shaders, it would also be nice to be able to change object and shaders order in the ui just to help visualize and organize things better in the ui and so on... but I have no doubt that you will come with ideas and tools greater that what I could ever expect )
    Will
    9 months ago
    Couldn't have said it better myself.
    Definitely need a simple deformer and quad wireframes.
Matin
2 years ago
Thanks man, I wish there was another way to composite these 3D effects together because that World position pass your talking about seems like a lot of work.
Can't there be a way?
PS. Any news from the Future Model pack? Maybe you release it with this update like you did to the last one? Because Future Model pack is a lot more important for me than any other model pack, at least give us a free car or a jet... it's really hard to find a good working model for element 3D.
Thanks :)
2 years ago
Awesome!!! I was wondering if your bug fixes will stop the glow in Element from flickering as it goes away from the camera in z depth. I emailed your support team, haven't received a reply on this yet!

Looking forward to this update very much!

Cheers :)
2 years ago
Say what! That is just what I needed!!! I was trying to emit particles from a 3d object that was animated but gave it up. Because it caused to many problems and didn't look realistic enough. You sir are a mindreader, haha. Every free update makes me wonder what you will do with Element 3D V.2!!!!! Aren't you giving to many free updates so V.2 won't be much different? If you know what I Mean.......
samwelito
2 years ago
Amazing Andy. May be am among few from East Africa(Tanzania. Have been following your work and your team and all that I can say is YOU GUYS ARE MAGNIFICO! It's a bit hard from here to get your products especially buying them.U will be again of great help if you'll suggest a nice and convinient way to buy your products apart from credit cards which are not common down here.
Thanx Andy.
    Warren
    2 years ago
    Samwelito: I too am a big fan and follower, nakaa Dar. I'm sure we are a few more in TZ.
shorey
2 years ago
wow very cool where is a downloads
Abelo
2 years ago
That's why I am talking about!!!!!….the only thing left for this puppy to do is…interactions between objects (shadows & reflections)……I know, I know I am asking to much. But dreams is what life is made of…some people make them a reality…My reality!!! Like Andrew…...I love you bro!!! …….(Just for the record...I am not gay) ;)
prathamesh
2 years ago
hye andrew sir . please make vehical model pack .
like sports car , plane , spaceships and all that things . please reply :-)
    Matin
    2 years ago
    It's called the "Future Model Pack" the name is on it! It's future so it will come in the future but, we haven't heard any news from andrew kramer about this model pack.
    Please give us some hope Andrew Kramer!
Sandy
2 years ago
After Effects 2D Tracking…learned here
GANGNAM FUNKIN STYLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzSl26acopY&list=UUHoYJKTT-VUKB27s7_1Y8NQ&index=1
NAGEEB ALHIMI
2 years ago
Thank you very much for all this creativity Andrew Kramer
How I hope that there will be a solution to the reflection between the elements and each other, and also to the shadows
Ubiq
2 years ago
How do you guys get food on the table if you're giving away all these awesome features for free..?! Also, if you guys keep going like that, you'll find yourselves in a situation where there's nothing left to offer in Element 2.0 but the option to activate freaking ray-tracing inside of AE for your customers to pay for!
Joel
2 years ago
Thank you for your hard work guys!!
2 years ago
That is so freaking cool. I never stop to be impressed by your Element plugin. Bravo!
Elfedelazik
2 years ago
Waow... !!!
I bless the day I heard about Vc and Andrew Kramer.
I might be wrong but think that I read nothing about the... WHEN ??
And do you plan to offer us such other class updates until next summer ?

By the way, 3D model packs are incredibly excellent, ...more than this.
I could import them into Vue Xstream and have a question about this:

With Metropolitan pack, Vue automatically requires the textures file directory. And it's an easy install
With the other packs, it's not the same and I have to come back to Vue import rules and don't get as quickly an as good result.
So..
I don't understand much about all this :) But.. tend to think that something is different in the way products user files were created and I'm wondering if there is a way to get the same easy "final user" effect with all your fantastic 3D packs ? :)

I love your work and the ways you do it. For what i can understand :)
Cheers
zedul
2 years ago
Too good...Now I know why you are busy....! Waiting patiently as usual for the updates....please also elaborate the bugs fixed...
Warren
2 years ago
that is so cool. Will I also be able to load my TIFF, TARGA etc. textures? I have heaps of models that I could add the textures to in Version 1, now I have to go into photoshop and convert the pics. Thanks again, I appreciate your dedication, and my wife just said, 'They really care about their customers'. You guys are great, and I mean that in a way better than Frosted Flakes.


later on, I wonder if Sam gets people in the grocery store, going, aren't you the guy who got disintegrated? Or, better, 'Hey, Sam, just run around over there for a minute, let me film with my iphone, I'm gonna have an alligator fall out of the lightbulb onto you and eat you. Just wondering.
2 years ago
This is a huge thing! :D thanks Mr. Kramer!
2 years ago
is there any chance this update addresses a bug i think i discovered where when working with more than one E3D layer in a project & having different Custom Layer texture maps on Each E3D layer, the Two E3D layers dont keep track of their own Custom Layer textures but seem to treat Custom layers as a Global reference instead of a Module reference, there by mixing up the assigned custom layers seperately. Also if a Precomposed layer is in the project but not visible, E3D doesnt now see it if it is assigned to a costume layer. i would have thought some one before me would have reported this? thanks for everything VC Team! ur all AWESOME SAUCE! like a Gaucamole but spicier :P
Skaiman
2 years ago
Hey Andrew, looking nice!
Wouldn't it be cool to implement a sort of polydeformer in the plugin that changes the mesh through noise e.g.? Would be very cool for morphing "liquid objects" or others in the [Motion-Design] pack!
jimmy
2 years ago
It's working with optical flares too ?
Maui
2 years ago
Superb.
Wouldn't it be great to also have Object, Material or even Group ID Passes available so that we don't have to duplicate Element layers when wanting to work on specific parts of an animation where more than one groupe is used.
Maybe I oversee something but I found working with Material or Object ID Passes really helpfull when dealing with 3d scenes
2 years ago
PERFECT!
Thanks - thats exactly what I asked you 5 Days ago via Twitter!

Amazing!
2 years ago
Yeah! This work obviusly with every kind of level, like pictures or masking videos? Thanks every day ;)
2 years ago
nice work andrew........
Brock
2 years ago
This Realy Awsome And Please Please Its A Request So Please Please give a police car 3d model free please please
JoeRender
2 years ago
Will there be a vehicle model pack for e3d? With all the cool police cars, tanks n stuff you show us in these videos?
2 years ago
I'm trying to make a missile fly by, composited with aerial footage I purchased from artbeats. Will I now be able to make a smoke trail with the missile Andrew?? Thanks, because It doesn't seem to work with E3D and particular....:'-(
2 years ago
Nice
Can´t wait to see if it get rids of the bugs that I can´t replicate or explain :)
Kay Martens
2 years ago
everytime you come with an update, i have to rethink the consequences for my current project! - its very exhausting (and amazing!!!)
2 years ago
Thank you magic wish granting wizard. You asked for 2013 suggestions and I said help use make it 2013 the year of 3D, and this is exactly what be need. . Damn your good. That was fast.
Ben
2 years ago
No way, this plug-in just keeps on getting better and better!
Dr Nkeng Stephens
2 years ago
All hail to Andrew Kramer
2 years ago
The timing cannot be any better. I'm creating a cemetery scene with fog and, well, my Element comp doesn't work very well with Particular at the moment. So this is a godsend.

As far as the bug fixes, I was wondering if this resolves issues with Open GL and AE flickering specifically involving Element. I've been struggling with this for some time and AE flickers (only my main screen flickers on my dual-monitor set-up) when trying to render a preview for a comp with an Element layer. My husband found a possible band-aid solution to change adaptive resolution to fast render, which keeps the flickering down to a minimum. However, I was wondering if there's been any discussion or possibly issues with this. I didn't see anything on the forums relating to this.
    2 years ago
    One thing to be sure to turn of mufti-processor rendering that render multiple frames simultaneously, this can cause some problems. But we have fixed many GPU bugs in this update.
2 years ago
And that's the thing that was missing for me in Element 3D. Hope we will see update soon enough to use it in our another community project.
abdou
2 years ago
man idunno what to say ...u guys r doing the best thing i ever seen in my life....i wish i can talk to u for once mr.Andrew
vishal
2 years ago
Ohuuuuu !SWeeeet Jesus !! Actually what i was Wanted,,, !! damh.. Andrew BOY.. NOW I Dont NEED To use Fume Fx for Explosiveness... !! Now i can do all thing inside After Effects., !! Smoke,fire,dust !! Everything.. !! Sweet Andrew :*)
Bob K
2 years ago
Superb! It's like the gift that keeps giving!
If not for VC I swear I'd be selling used cars or participating in stock options scams.
Brock
2 years ago
Are the rest of the graphics glitches and slow downs wrapped up in this update? I know some where both fixed and introduced in 1.5. Thanks again for your hard work! It's just nerve wracking when basing livelihood on newly birthed software. There's always those kinks ;)

Thanks again team!
    2 years ago
    Yep! Lots of bug fixes that was the main focus of the update!
James
2 years ago
This is very cool...
2 years ago
With all these innovations, can shadows be far behind?
lk
2 years ago
very excited! amazing... this opens up so many more possibilities!
2 years ago
you're timing is impeccable sir!!! or maybe i should turn around???? are you stalking me! i totally needed this!! freaky deeky man! ;P
A
2 years ago
All hail Andrew kramer!!!!!
2 years ago
This is exciting. I wish I had this for the sci fi short film I'm filming now. But I guess I will have it on my next film. Thanks for great products.
    Tural Memmedzadeh
    2 years ago
    Andrew sorry but Pantural better than you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHD8Xf5Rnvo .. You dont know nothing compared with him..Sorry but it s really..you better than me and Pantural better than you..
    Yur-pt
    2 years ago
    Sorry for my bad english (I'm portuguese), but I want to reply "Tural Memmedzadeh".
    Have you learn something with Pantural?
    In fact, Andrew Kramer dispends lots of time to teach us many things, and his work is funtastic.
    tural memmedzadeh
    2 years ago
    of course andrew cramer is fantastic on the after effects tutorials..Yes maybe Pantural have not created some of the tutorials but andrew to not created "professional cg tutorial" and Pantural is earned all the graphic programs himself..I dont know maybe andrew to can do that but he dont created 3ds max cool render tutorial or animation on c4d so... If andrew doing cool tutorals from famous films he want to learn this to
    John S.
    2 years ago
    Tural, what are you talking about? Andrew works on feature films like Star Trek, Mission Impossible, Super 8 and TV shows like Fringe and Revolution. He does feature film FX, but his site is about After Effects so he focuses on compositing. Look at the Advanced Training videos to see more detailed work. It takes time to explain that stuff. If you are talking about the tech demo above... it is meant to demonstrate the feature he is promoting for Element.

    Pantural is a great artist, but Andrew created a 3D program with Element... I think he knows what he is doing.
    ManiaCCC
    2 years ago
    @Tural Memmedzadeh: noone is going to tell you their full know-how..and you are comparing uncomparable. Andrew is making tutorials for FX enthusiastic ..and these tutorials just have to be short enough to not over-complicate things. Pantural has awesome videos but there is no way to make tutorial about everyhing in their videos. Also, it's very different platform. You are trying compare mostly motion graphics/post-production or tutorials for simple folks with full scale 3d work. Don't do that..you just can't say someone is better than other based on very different projects. Also, Andrew Kramer revolutionized work in after effects more than Pantural in anything else. Andrew Kramer is innovator.. Pantural group is group of awesome artists .. (I am sorry, I don't know how many ..or only one ..is part of Pantural)
    2 years ago
    Yeah, you're comparing apples and oranges. Andrew specializes primarily in After Effects, and nobody can create a video of Pantural's quality purely in After Effects alone. I saw that video a few years back and it's very impressive... but you can't really compare it to what AK does. Could Pantural create an After Effects tutorial as good as Andrew's?
    tural memmedzadeh
    2 years ago
    i know andrew is "father of after effects" but he is can learn we have we can do have to pantural work.if he is really cool artist he want gonna a cool high graphick tutorial (sorry for bad english)..and andrew is have a group of cg artists but pantural is alone
    Tural Memmedzadeh
    2 years ago
    and the last tutorial of andrew cramer "World Position Pass for Element 3D" i know its very cool feature but it is not high guality graphic..I think andrew cant high graphics better panturalhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu0Lny71zcA
    2 years ago
    and elemen 3d = 0 ..because in element 3d have not cool shading , reflecting any 2-3 object, we cant rigged any mocel in element 3d just fast rendering..if you want to animating object you want to first go to 3ds max after then animate some of the object and bla bla bla...if i want this i do everything in 3ds max..sorry andrew i know youre read this but it is the bitter truth if you are better than pantural, do your one great high detalling showreel tutorial to!
    Redo
    2 years ago
    I like making movies because there I can express myself. Thanks to Andrew, I can figure out realizing even more complex shots what was in my mind in first place. Somethings are incomparable and thats the beauty of it.

    I believe the most important thing is teamwork. Not only you can share your ideas but you can also have so much fun time. It may not help the movie 'to be the best' but it will make the movie strong, nullifying all the comparisons.
    alaindeloc
    2 years ago
    There are 2 chances for this kind of thread to appear:

    1. Everybody here is 12 years old and just have no idea about anything.
    or
    2. Everybody here it's not 12 years old and just have no idea about anything.

    The only common thing between Pantural's portfolio masterpiece and Andrew's explanatory video is the fact that both have a rendered car. Pantural in fact used more than one for his reel and he rendered everything in 110 days and modeled everything in probably another 100 days. Pantural's clip shows his strength and abilities in 3D Max, animation, modelling, texturing, lighting, rendering, compositing and sound-design. Andrew's clip shows a feature of a plugin that VC is selling it. You can not expect that VC will work like Pantural just to show a feature for a free update of a plugin. That doesn't mean that the guys that are working in 3D for VC are not capable to do something like that. It means only that no one will spend that effort and money only to present a feature for a free update of a plugin.

    So, please.. stop
    D4
    2 years ago
    Sorry Tural Memmedzadeh but those Pantural's V-ray Cars still look fake to me. Sorry but its really..Pantural's better than me and Alex Roman better than him =))
    Tural Memmedzadeh
    2 years ago
    @d4 yes you better than me andrew cramer better than you pantural better than Andrew and Alex Roman better than Pantural :))
    Tural Memmedzadeh
    2 years ago
    @ alaindeloc.First i have 22 ..2 ok i will stop but andrew to can teach us " cg effects " But nobody doing that just primitive tutorials and it..(
    Laith
    2 years ago
    What's your film? can i see it, link please.
    SND
    2 years ago
    Dear Annoying @Tural
    I am not intend to say you a bit right now after seeing your comments what is look like kids arguments; But As long as im AK's one of biggest fan And its his site - I should defend him. First of all donot compare anyone here. But as gonna answer you i have to. But i guess you are a person of pantural who heard about this compositing site and had jealous about it so came here to say these stuffs.
    First making you sure that Andrew's site is VFX & Compositing Site. Mainly we learn from Him about compositing part. Its not 3DS max (Pantural) site so Dont compare Anyone. Its a learning site where he teach us . And You please do a little bit research VCP worked and Hollywood movies And TV serials And promos. Andrew have teammates who are 3D artists in their team who can do such wonderfull job too.
    Pantural dont teach us Anything. Pantural is Not A Site where we do learn.. They upload only their works I agree they do fantastic job but only with MAX. They render their stuffs more than 100s of days.
    Andrew made E3D and other plugins that changed Whole Aftereffect / Compositing Industry.
    It is his Site , His world. He is Alpha , Bita And Omega here. Can you say kidstuffs like that and disrespect Andrew in his world and we will let you go with peace? If you think so; You are so wrong. You cant go on somone's home and say rubbish trash thing to their face with standing in their land. JUST THINK WHAT THAT FAMILY WILL DO TO YOU. SO IMAGINE THAT HERE.
    Damien
    2 years ago
    I can't stand reading that "Element 3D = 0". What's the point of comparing a full-featured 3D package to a plugin that meets specific needs? Did your read? It took 110 days to render Pantural's film! Element 3D is for people that need a suitable balance between render times and overall graphic quality. Yes, it does not feature reflections between objects, but with a little bit of creativity you can overcome this pretty easily.

    I'm tired of these wars about which software is superior to the others. They are complementary. Some people think that only the render engine makes their work look amazing: that's not true! It's the clever way of using the tools, and talent that make a picture beautiful.
    Omar
    2 years ago
    to tural memmedzadeh

    dude , what the heck are you talking about ! , andrew cremer is the best in his work , i saw the video ... that guy ain`t playing around , TRUE ... but how you compare someone specialized in 2d and know much but not too much of 3d to someone who know ALL ABOUT 3D and a bit of 2d ??? .... i mean common , i work with maya and 3d max , that guy was doing much of effort but ALL IN 3D , the only 2d thing i saw that the flares , and he was not even good at it ....

    grew up and be respectful , every body is killing it in his own career ! , andrew is the best of all when it comes to 2d and ONE OF THE BEST when it comes to 3d ... and btw , element 3d is AWESOME BY ALL THE MEANS , i mean come on ! ... ur pantural dun dare to make even a plugin like it ! ...

    peace and love kiddo ... later
    Shawn
    2 years ago
    TURAL: I've been on this site for years. I've never seen Andrew claim to be better than anyone. Andrew displays a gracious humility that you lack. Many of us, myself included, have learned enough from Andrew Kramer that we are able to make money using the skills learned at Video Copilot. We aren't here to compete, we are here to learn, and to grow. Andrew constantly challenges us to push ourselves and our software. You are challenging us to a childish competition. Frankly, we don't have the time for childish things. Your messages were rude, insensitive, and uncivilized. Your parents would be embarrassed by your barbarian lack of manners. You should apologize for your bad behavior.
    Tural Memmedzadeh
    2 years ago
    shawn..i just said my ideas about element 3d..You can named be uncivilized or what you want..but it is just my thing about element 3d and nothing cant change this!
    Tural Memmedzadeh
    2 years ago
    Andd people..please listen to me!..If your ares speak about demokrati I must say my own .... And this all thinks my own...
    BiggBirdd
    2 years ago
    My dad can beat up your dad.......... time to move on guys........
    2 years ago
    oh maaan....

    @Tural Memmedzadeh, stop smoking weed man. Andrew make cinematic effects. believable effects. not some plastic looking cars shooting by. the link you posted is quite bad IMO and therefore i guess your eye for detail and quality is as good as blind.

    I make all kind of things. Static and motion graphics, music, 3D, etc. and most of the time i simply don't have time to learn new applications and tricks by testing and playing around. So, Andrew is one of those guys out there helping me keeping my wide experience fresh.

    Instead of trolling around, look at some tutorials (whomever you choose) and learn something.

    Good luck
    Altamiradora
    2 years ago
    @Tural Memmedzadeh : This is what happens when you invite someone for supper ! They spit in the soup !!

    If you want to make negative comments about Andrew's work, please go somewhere else !
    Tural Memmedzadeh
    2 years ago
    @ mr.Nomore..What you talking about?if PanTural used the "plastic Unrealistic cars.." But what is it element??is it not plastic??it is naTuralLy plastic :)
    Tural Memmedzadeh
    2 years ago
    @Altamiradora..I like all works of andrew..But he are knowing 100% and sharing 1% why he not sharing 20 %
    GUI
    2 years ago
    Haha this is so funny, a bunch of grown up guys trying to find out which one's dad has the biggest dick :P
    2 years ago
    I agree with GUI. This is great. ELEMENT is capable of rendering models high quality.

    http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4499/saberl.jpg

    Modeled in Blender, Rendered in Element.

    ELEMENT-1 PANTURAL-0....I garentee you, Andrew would get into to I.L.M before pantural finishes a decent demo reel...
    Tural Memmedzadeh
    2 years ago
    Elementbob what you talking about??I have a server for rendering and now PanTural to have a render engine for 3ds max..click and 3s max will finiwed rendering..Now he will not wait 110 days
    Tural Memmedzadeh
    2 years ago
    and nothing cant be good 3ds max vray high rendering :P
    Shades
    2 years ago
    This has got to be one of the best blog comment threads I've ever read here on VC!! :D Almost as funny as AKs terrible jokes! lol
    Tural Memmedzadeh
    2 years ago
    Shades..what your mean AK?? its meaning "amina koyayim??"
    cheekylilbasterd
    2 years ago
    Ok so let me jump in
    A guy calling himself TURAL claims PANTURAL is better blah blah blah. Ok maybe. Saw the video, probably using a lot of plugins which 3ds max is not short of.

    Ask your PANTURAL or TURAL , if he's ever read the afterEffects SKD or ever programmed antying with an API, I have so I can attest to the genius of Kramer (The Genius of Kramer, movie title right there, get PANTURAL to animate dat TURAL!!)

    Now back to the issue , I remember sometime back I said to myself gee, you could actually use OpenGL to intergrate 3D with aftereffects , before I knew Boom . Element3D, since then it's been improving, and it's gonna get better and better. Vray has had many years of development you dumb ass.

    Andrew is one smart guy, you will have to be a bit of a programmer yourself to know the extent to which him and the in house programmer Sergio excel. Maybe rendering with Element3D hasn't reached Vray or Mental Ray proportions, but it's great, better than anyting out there, this thing almost retired some few particle and text plugins, at least in my toolset. The Materals are just awesome and the Metro Pack. I get some of the fastest turnout ever , not needing to load any 3d program

    Now they've added Sequence loader and soon there will be physics, you've (TURAL or should I say PANTURAL) need to show some respect.air your opinions still but respectfully, I hope the cold hasn't frozen too many cells up between your ears , got you talking some fringe talk.

    Dont be coming to our loving community here talking like a sillylilbasterd. PEACE
    cheekylilbasterd
    2 years ago
    Will the Admin please see the funny in this
    and respect my say in this matter.
    Thank you

    Ok so let me jump in
    A guy calling himself TURAL claims PANTURAL is better blah blah blah. Ok maybe. Saw the video, probably using a lot of plugins which 3ds max is not short of.

    Ask your PANTURAL or TURAL , if he's ever read the afterEffects SDK or ever programmed antying with an API, I have so I can attest to the genius of Kramer (The Genius of Kramer, movie title right there, get PANTURAL to animate dat TURAL!!)

    Now back to the issue , I remember sometime back I said to myself gee, you could actually use OpenGL to intergrate 3D with aftereffects , before I knew Boom . Element3D, since then it's been improving, and it's gonna get better and better. Vray has had many years of development you dumb ass.

    Andrew is one smart guy, you will have to be a bit of a programmer yourself to know the extent to which him and the in house programmer Sergio excel. Maybe rendering with Element3D hasn't reached Vray or Mental Ray proportions, but it's great, better than anyting out there, this thing almost retired some few particle and text plugins, at least in my toolset. The Materals are just awesome and the Metro Pack. I get some of the fastest turnout ever , not needing to load any 3d program

    Now they've added Sequence loader and soon there will be physics, you've (TURAL or should I say PANTURAL) need to show some respect.air your opinions still but respectfully, I hope the cold hasn't frozen too many cells up between your ears , got you talking some fringe talk.

    cheekylilbasterd
    2 years ago
    They probalby got some bots here tracking certain
    words so I will tone down

    Ok so let me jump in
    A guy calling himself TURAL claims PANTURAL is better blah blah blah. Ok maybe. Saw the video, probably using a lot of plugins which 3ds max is not short of.

    Ask your PANTURAL or TURAL , if he's ever read the afterEffects SDK or ever programmed antying with an API, I have so I can attest to the genius of Kramer (The Genius of Kramer, movie title right there, get PANTURAL to animate dat TURAL!!)

    Now back to the issue , I remember sometime back I said to myself gee, you could actually use OpenGL to intergrate 3D with aftereffects , before I knew Boom . Element3D, since then it's been improving, and it's gonna get better and better. Vray has had many years of development you d*** a*s.

    Andrew is one smart guy, you will have to be a bit of a programmer yourself to know the extent to which him and the in house programmer Sergio excel. Maybe rendering with Element3D hasn't reached Vray or Mental Ray proportions, but it's great, better than anyting out there, this thing almost retired some few particle and text plugins, at least in my toolset. The Materals are just awesome and the Metro Pack. I get some of the fastest turnout ever , not needing to load any 3d program

    Now they've added Sequence loader and soon there will be physics, you've (TURAL or should I say PANTURAL) need to show some respect.air your opinions still but respectfully, I hope the cold hasn't frozen too many cells up between your ears , got you talking some fringe talk.
    Tural Memmedzadeh
    2 years ago
    First Pantural in reallyty called Tural but a few years he called himself "pantera - Pantural".I am not Pantural.Pantural say he are not used another plugins vraydan ::) ..ok..Soo..i like andrew cramer works you d*** a*s.! And i respect him! But why he are not dont talking about CG effects?
    Cdisturbed
    2 years ago
    So i saw this kids comment ages ago and i wanted to reply badly and set him straight but i let it go being that there are so many people like him who dont think before they talk online but now i have come back only to see that there is a giant string of comments all trying to get this person to understand what he doesnt and failing to accomplish this, so allow me to end it entirely. TURAL: firstly I dont know if youre in a foreign country or if your jut some little kid but you need to improve your english before you go criticizing someone else in english. Secondly your original comment comes across as rather rude and disrespectful, that is why anyone here acted angrily in their replying comments to you. Thridly andrew kramer can do anything this pantural guy can do and he has plenty of high quality work. He has done work for movies such as star trek and super 8 as well as visual effects for tv shows such as fringe and revolution. Andrew Kramers tutorials dont look good because he isnt trying to create a 5 star movie production out of it, he's just showing the viewers some different techniques. He isn't TRYING to make incredible graphics. The example above that you have attempted to discredit is NOT supposed to look good either, NOR IS IT A TUTORIAL. I don't know how in the world you could have thought it WAS a tutorial, but IT IS NOT. (just as a reminder ill quote you:"and the last tutorial of andrew cramer World Position Pass for Element 3D ") This short video is meant ONLY to display one of the upcoming features or element v1.6 and it does exactly that. We don't need to see some out of this world cinematic short just to understand this, and not everyone in the world looks at this blog either, so why put in the effort? (that's rhetorical) You have also mentioned that element does not produce entirely realistic effects, what you dont understand is that it is not supposed to (at least not for now). It is not supposed to be a whole 3d editing tool, its not supposed to look just like something you might see out your window, its not supposed to solve everyones 3d problems. It IS supposed to be a fast rendering, easy way to add 3d elements to a composition that CAN look realistic with fairly easily adjusted settings and lighting within after effects which is what it does. Understand also that element is still sort of in development, as you might notice from this entire blog post. It is about a feature that is going to be added to element, meaning it is NOT A FINISHED PRODUCT. Element is only about a year old and it still has a ways to go. That DOESNT mean its a bad product by any means. I hope you have read this and come to a realization from it and that you understand that i am not trying to insult you, only help you.
    Lee
    2 years ago
    I would like to point out that in Pantural's video at 1:25 we see some Riot Gear FX...from VideoCopilot
    Tural Memmedzadeh
    2 years ago
    @Lee..It is not riot gear effect!..Pantural used effect has stored in sonny vegas and it is a simply fx
    !!11!!!one!!
    Michael Noel
    2 years ago
    Tural andrew and his team do great work. Your video looks nice too! But Thomas Suurland is "better" than Pantural. He's from the 90's and works solo. (http://suurland.com/)
    2 years ago
    but he is freelancer hunny :)
    Alejandro
    1 year ago
    Hello andrew i have a new hp z620 workstation with a quadro K2000 and when i try to run element it say that i have an error and the software crashes do yo have support for this cards?
    9 months ago
    Tural Memmedzadeh - it's very immature and unprofessional to say 'you're not as good as ...' - it exposes just how you little you know about what you're saying. Andrew isn't an automotive modeller so you can't even compare. Everyone has different strengths and areas of skill, no 2 people have exactly the same skill set.
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