Stunning work as usual !

and yeessssss… that was supeeeer.. I have watched it, loved so much.. what can I say? perfect!.. almost I would cry

I loved that title sequence. Awesome work.

Common! Load! I wanna see it!

STUPENDOUS! BIG LOVE from BANDUNG, INDONESIA!

lol ! that is funny !

Nice dude! Task accomplished.

Nice I like the “old school” new technology notes. I don’t know, The 3d Fringe looks to clean at times.
Funny stuff!

I remember when 8mbs of RAM cost $500 bucks for my dad’s Mac SE 30 back in 1985. And before Adobe Flash or After Effects, you had Hyper Card.

Was quickly looking all around the web to see if you had been asked to do this after watching the show last night. Thanks for posting to let us know.

ha good stuff. no doubt that was a challenge. That’s an interesting thing to need to create/capture the essence of. =)

haha, that’s awesome

Awesome… you did a great job as always. The best visual part is the skeleton hand becoming a regular hand. These colors look so old (in a positive way). I really bought it is from the 80′s. And the remixed Theme is just great. I wanted to go into the garage and pick my old atari again. hmmm… maybe i should..
michael off

That was dope . I actually just saw the episode this morning on Hulu and tripped back to my Sophomore year in High School with the “Way-back machine” style of the ’85 titles

great as usual… reminds me to do more composing… cheers

I almost started breakdancing

Incredible! I’ve loved.. Is Optical Flares Plugin on Light Effect? xD

Made me laugh. Nice job (on the sequence *and* making me laugh).

I wish I had your job =)

So perfect, Can’t imagine any part of that sequence needing to change. I would love to see some “retro” tutorials.

Amazing work! Looks like you plucked it straight from the 80′s tree itself. I like you

i think the best in the whole thing was the music. it just fits so well. and i also lol’d a bit at the “personal computing” innovation. xD
great work as usual, keep up andrew!

brilliant, amazing i was also wondering if you could make a simpler version for tutorial perposes that would be awsome!

The edited music is a very slight change, but makes a lot of difference. Excellent work as always Andrew.

Great stuff. Would love to see a little heads up on the part with all those lines on second 30. What are those?

srry for double post but… you did the original intro too!? I just thought that you only did the retro version. god, a primetime show with an intro from a guy from a crappy site, haha!…

…or is it?

well, not crappy anymore! nice too see all your work has paid off. dont get me wrong, i think you’ve done a great job so far, but this is something so much more palpable… i’m dazed… :S

I didn’t realize that “RADICAL” was trademarked. Damn you Spicolli(spelling?)!!! I loved the Tron-ish rectangular lines and the 80′s power drums!
Great stuff Andrew! Thanks for everything!

Iam still a big fan of FRINGE, Walter is the most intresting charecters i’v ever seen. Science and human anatomy are things beyond cool, I hope that we can get more tutorials related to some VFX been done in FRINGE.

Hah! Great job on the jerky optical printer motion too dude. Well done.

Cool Indeed.

@Andre
What do you mean Crappy? This is one of the best AE sites around but YES, he made the original intro and the title credits for the new star trek as well… He does a lot of professional work but for some reason doesn’t talk about it that much on the blog.

Andrew that came out great! I love the retro feel!

I’m a huge fan of the show!
The original is amazing and the retro intro you did blew my mind lol It’s pretty cool!!

Hey Andrew,
Pardon me if this has already been suggested.
A new Videocopilot t-shirt:

ON THE FIRST DAY GOD CREATED A SOLID
AND SAW THAT IT WAS GOOD

THEN HE APPLIED OPTICAL FLARES
AND GRINNED FOR HE SAW THAT IT WAS BETTER

…or maybe just the first line
…its a work in progress
JU

In 1985 I was 13 years old, playing Atari, sitting with a cassetterecorder recording rap music from the radio drawing monsters with a pencil, using q-tips to smoothen out the picture making it look more realistic, watching the Cosby Show on a small tv with an antenna you have to pull out.

Now I’m 37, Editing video with AE & Pr , sitting with my CDJ-1000 behind me playing mp3′s I downloaded from Beatport.
Having a PS3 with 5.1 Surround and cinema chairs on a LCD TV. Even with all this technology, the feeling is still the same, just more advanced.

That was awesome. Really. There wer so many elemnts in it, that remind one of older styles. simply WOW.

Perfect….LOVE the music too

Great job! I want too to can this awesome stuff…

Looks absolutely outstanding!

You are genius.

I was born in 85 and I approve of that intro

WOW
OMG
frankly that just blew my mind
a tutorial on how to make that liquid thingy at the start and the smoke that come around it and hw u have made the Fringe text come together would be soo great.
Once a again brilliant Andrew just dazzling.

I love it *_____*

Awe man that was simply savage.

Any news on that idea for a second Riot Gear????

Yeah, that intro definitely looks ATARI-ish. Great job. the music fits it perfectly. I love Fringe. To me, it is like the next style of X-Files type shows. Last night’s episode was cool as well. I can see Andrew’s signature video work all over it.

I thought that was so Choice!

Big fan since the begining of VC. Excellent work Andrew !
“Two thumbs up” (like in the old days)

Hey Andrew,

Just noticed something on the original intro (the non-1985 one), as the “SUSPENDED ANIMATION” slide transitions to the “DARK MATTER” slide, for a frame or two, text saying “OBSERVERS ARE HERE” appears.

Just wondering, your own personal touch or did Abrams want you to put that in? (Subliminal Message maybe?)

P.S:

Sorry if I’ve given the game away in some way, haha

Genius. Pure genius (the 80′s version, that is. The contemporary one is merely awesome.)

ah man I remember that show, so underrated it got canceled before it’s time

Great work, stylistically I think i prefer the retro version

Hmmm, Observers are here…
Maybe JJ Adams is involved or knows something about people who are watching us…from above…

Just saying…

Watched it three times in a row just to take in the sheer skill involved in it. That works on every level, it made me smile with giddy joy and excitement. The detail in replicating those old titling techniques is faultless. Well done Andrew.

Wow. A friend of mine sent me the link to the retro version this morning in awe. We both don’t watch the show but heard about the special title. I was like, “I wonder if they had Andrew do that,” but didn’t see a new post. Until now!

Well done. That’s one of my flaws is when I have to tackle something outside of my element, like making something seem as though it came from the eighties, I always fight so hard to not make any modern type of additions to it. It’s hard, for me at least, to just detach and make something for what it’s supposed to be and not what I’m capable of. If that makes any sense.

Very good job.

My opinion, it is always difficult to return back, great job!
P.S. how much time you spent?
Respect.

Andrew did u used C4D for the title?? look like the transformers one….

All of a sudden, I want to go watch Knight Rider and Airwolf

Kramer, you magnificent son of a bitch! You’ve done it again!

Very sharp ! You’re the master as usual !

I remember shooting video on a VHS camera for our high school video yearbook in the late ’80s. We edited it by dubbing from VCR to VCR and using the title function to superimpose titles and credits at the end. It seems so primitive now.
At the time, the computers we had in our school, which I believe were Radio Shack TRS-80′s Model 3 & 4, had a whopping 8K and 16K of RAM respectively.

Dang I feel old.

you should want to look at Dubner Character Generator
and Painter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jg_6pEp5LM

It’s only missing one thing…a keytar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MgLNnzeQFw

the very slight camera shake you used is what sold it for me, very well done as always

Ah, the good ole’ days… when life was simpler!

it was absolutely brilliant! That was an awesome additional to a great show last night.

Frickin’ PERFECT!! I love the Lazer Surgery, and virtual reality.

And Charles, nice work. If the tempo was up about 50 bpm, I would have expected to hear,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIW5_uGtehs

“Knight Rider – A shadowy flight into the dangerous world of a man who does not exist…

Michael Knight, A young loner on a crusade to champion the cause of the innocent,
the helpless, the powerless, in a world of criminals who operate above the law.”

Nice. I bet that was a blast!

WOW Andrew i love it!
Really fits in with the time period and its great :]
Well done!

Very very nice title sequence! But witch program has been used for make the 3D FRINGE text? Maya, Cinema 4D, 3ds Max?

Very 90′s Outer-Limits like….at least theres not a naked man in it!

I love the 80′s version, all you need is a flux-capacitor and you are set.

LOL.. Dang.. I don’t know how I missed the original Fringe intro post, but I’m a huge Fringe fan, and every time I watch the show open, I thought to myself, “This definitely looks like Andrew Kramer”.. I’m glad to know I was right!

it’s so beautiful i love it and the music is great

Love the 80′s styled music, with the very 80′s electric guitar at the end. Did Abrams do this version of the music too?

Cheers,
Jacob.

I was waiting for “Compact Discs” and “Electronic Mail” and “Cyberwarfare.”

Good work; especially the new hand overlaying the skeletal hand. Well done!

Awesome. Ill be creating some cool titles as I have just ordered Action Essentials 2! 2K version of course!

Hey Andrew!

Great work again. I really appreciate this site and all of your work. I hope to get into the creative track of an advertising program (and eventually do visual work on either ads or films) and I feel the resources you provide are putting me ahead.

It seems you’ve found a way to keep things fun and interesting while laying down a solid career. I look up to your level of skill and apparent professionalism. If you have any advice, I’d be happy to hear it!

My friends and I gathered round the PVR earlier this evening to watch episode 1, season 3 of BBCs Ashes To Ashes, followed by the latest episode of Fringe… Cue Fringe titles… Cue cheers and rapturous applause! We must’ve pressed rewind at least half a dozen times! Thank you for recreating my 20′s for me

Awesome as usual, Mr K!

I watched fringe last night. When I saw that I was wondering if you had made that as well. Really cool

That was awesome, brought back memories. I worked at a TV news station in the ’90′s that was using 80′s technology so the resolution and mechanical animation is perfect. Also the bad VHS or 3/4″ analog tape tracking is great. It was a pretty good episode too. They were back at the fictitious Reiden Lake, which would be about an hour from where I live.

I remmeber using the video toaster it was fun at that time

I am quite literally astounded at how well that turned out. Not just cool and cutting edge, but downright classy! Thanks for allowing us to compare yours with the old one! Looks amazing.

I like the music, is there an extended version ?

OOOO man so goood really good , awesome sequence and remember me tron … yes i’m old man !!! Best regards Stefano

p.s.
And the sound nobody say it’s really ’80 wow !!

About how long did it take you to create something like that?
Judging on how fast you work in your tutorials i’d say like 10 min.

It was perfection. Had a huge smile on my face while watching that last night. Nicely done.

Loved the opening sequence Andrew. But I have to admit, I don’t remember too many animation-only opening title sequences in the early to mid 80′s (I was born in 70).

If you wanted to go deep-80 retro, you just needed video of each of the main characters and then the amusing ‘freeze-frame’ character title slate. (Of course, Walter generating a cheesy lightning effect in his laboratory would’ve been sweet!)

What i would love to know is how you make the grain and the camera shake so, 1980′s like. It’s very good.

That remind me the V tv series, you know Marc singer and the aliens invading the earth..

AwesomeAwesomeAwesomeAwesomeAwesome!!!!@”@

Great work Andrew! and I want to thank you, because knowing you created the intro for the show, interested me enough to watch an episode, and now it is one of my most looked forward to TV shows!

Amazing how far we have come in the world. Nicely made.

A-mazing! Great work as always!!

Hello!!! I’m from Chile!! congratulations Andrew!! it’s looks awesome, I’m big fun of fringe

Great work emulating those old titles, and the music was spot on. Reminds me of the awe I experienced watching the DVNO music video.

A legend is always legend !!

Well, the 80′s one is way better than anything I could do with AE even today, so…and the present intro, well, forget it! But i’m here to learn, after all. Andrew deserves any and all and continued success, because he’s a giver. Generous folks have a way of receiving in the end. It is well deserved. I have learned so much from this site, it is crazy! Thanks for sharing your knowledge so generously, VC. I will pay you back with a purchase of some kind. Oh, I also used an 80′s Chyron in the 90′s at a TV station, typing in the news stuff, and hitting “read” for a half-hour. Lol.

Just saw that episode today and I didn’t know Andrew created the title sequence, but the first thing I thought when I saw the sequence was Andrew Kramer.

I watched FRINGE last night (great episode and very revealing if you follow the show). When I saw those titles I was thinking “Andrew Kramer”

Wow! great work as usual!

Hi man:
1) i love u
2) it’s very cool
3) but too much wiggle(shake at end title)

regards

Awesome! As Always!!

Hm. I watched the show yesterday, and had previously watched the sequence here, on the website. While I quite enjoyed watching it here, I didn’t like it too much in context. Can’t tell why, though.

Suuuper!

In 1984 I was 13 years old and if I remember correctly we didn´t have technology back then

Oops..it was in 1985….but all the same!!

oh , very well , once video same as SECOND.
but once video is modern .
very PARTICULAR.
thanks

MAN! I’m speechless…
Respect!

Andrew, Great job brother, you nailed it! love the site thanks for all the tips. – Jeremy

Dear Mr. Andrew, I was just wondering what did they use for that drop that was rippling or warping…was it 2d or 3d…did they use noise or 3rd party plug in for flows and stuff like that…thank you… good job as usual

keep it up supporter

Hey Andrew,

did you use the Fringe-Title-Break where it develops out of little pieces in the blog-show intro too? Looks just A-MAZE-ING! Greetings from Austria

The big question remains, did you use Sure Target or did you not…?

great work as usual! can’t wait for the tutorial =D

Great, I really like it.

But I was wondering whether you did this intro in several languages or someone else did? Because in Germany there are the german translations used as well as an subtitle at the very end.

Quite funny and in the same way weird that they would rebrand the opening sequence for a specific episode. Still, the 80′s weren’t always that “bad taste” and perhaps exploring another design direction would have been better and not as clichéed…

Made me laugh when it came out, it was very 80s, I was half expecting you to say “I got the first ever edition of after effects and did it on that”

great! spirit of retro is delivered at 100%!!!

tears and nostalgia

I knew that was your handy work again, very awesome as normal.

I was watching Fringe today and wondering, why the intro is in retro style now Anyway, great Job Andrew

I ask myself…but Andrew Kramer is real??? He’s so amazing…perfect…great…

Your colleagues are very lucky to have you as friend!!!

Bye
Gianni (from Italy)

At first when I saw the video I was like that’s not 80′s, but then I saw the second half and I must say, very good job, you are a true genius. That was so 80′s I thought I was a baby (born in ’83). Did I also mention I am wasted drunk?

-Dan Graves

I’ll I know about the show is that the kid from Might Ducks is in Fringe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch4rKKBVH38&feature=related . I love your style though

Good shit on the Fringe titles VCP crew…
BBC comedy show Look Around You did something similar a while back – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCWA7uevo_Q – worth a look. Graymachine had a cool article some time ago on the 1983 HBO intro, also worth checking out.

When I read about the music being altered too I instantly thought that for it to be 1985 it just had to have synthesizer in it. And I’m not disappointed! This is older at all aspects! Very well done, if I might say so myself!

Both titles are incredible, I was pleasantly surprised when I saw the 80s titles in the latest episode, congratulations!

this is prefect.
raely realy Awesome

looks a bit like Tron

i love the recreated intro! the tiny camerashake, the noisy screen with little bluriness. i feel like i am in 1985 back again. great job andrew!

and the music is just awesome!

Fringe is really a great show alone and I still remember watching the first episode thinking “Wow, the clips before and after the commercials is something unique in the way they implemented it from a graphical sense.” Thinking back to the early 90′s there was another show that was ahead of it’s time called VR5. Not sure how many remember it, but Fringe has the same appeal only more accepted. VR5 I think was a great concept, but the wrong time to air.

Very well done Andrew…

I’ve watched this new episode tomorrow and I was really surprised. I laughed a bit hah, that extremly well done music + retro look… +1

Anyway the whole episode was amazing. Flashback to Walter’s times was well executed.
When I saw retro title I was pretty sure that it will be something from the past.
Well done !

I just noticed the changes in the text, what a great little touch.

In vitro fertilization will destroy us all. Four fingers on a hand [what a monster!] I’m glad I can watch these evil inhuman discoveries all from the safe distance of degrading video tape. Thank you Andrew.

Nice, but it’s too fast. I can’t read the text.

Andy my old Sensei!

You forgot to drop the motion blur Otherwise, Perfecion

@Josh

yes, i thought people might get it wrong. i was just amazed by the fact that someone started with a simple website, and now does such “palpable” stuff… just that.

Brilliant – did you make the sound aswell?
I see ‘Wiggle’ too haha, nice!

I still have some art that I created using only 4 colors, painted on the Commodore 64 on an Okadata printer.

amazinggg incredible title sequence! keep the good work!! you are amazing Andrew

Absolute class Andrew! Love the editing aswell, the whole feel is perfect! 5*’s

Totally Awesome BUD! I mean cowabunga doood! And as we would say in Boston, That was wicked pissa!

I liked the original title better

All I could do was laugh.. that’s awesome..

Comme toujours! Un travail bien propre.

That is so old school! Love it.

the retro sound is awesome!

Very cool! Did you use time machine to make it?

Hi whats up,

lol, Andrew like in the new Fringe title you was asked if that was your hand, obviously it was’nt as you didnt have 5 fingers ….. But in the 1985 version… Is that your hand?

Nice work, well thought out as usual.

All the best
Dave

nice work
but the final title looks to modern &shiny… and i would change the font somehow, but the trailer is great

Damn Andrew, when you win the Oscar for best VFX don’t forget the little people at VCP

I don’t know what to say. Verrry impressed. I watched the upload before reading the rest of the blog and was confused as to whether or not FRINGE was on t.v. back in the day. Extremely convincing.

As soon as i’ve seen the new intro, i knew that only one man could build this so perfectly.
Congrats, it was also one of the best episode of the show…. God bless JJ Abrams & AK !!

lmao !! brilliant implementation of school graphics !

A little VFX breakdown perhaps in the next Blog Show or Tutorial?

Yippeee =D I love your work and I love FRINGE so much. The classic intro is so ispiring for me and your 80s version is simply cool! I really didn’t know, that it’s your work. Now I can say you: “Thanks, Andrew ”. I’m going to use similar style for intro in my dissertation. I’ll show you my result then.

Andrew, that really made me smile…….. that was awsome.

Wow Andrew! what technology you use?! this is amazing! I bet you used the Mark I computer. Sincerely, surpassed the Atari haha Congratulations! Great stuff!

Here is the steps iam following to make FRINGE intro.
1st follow tutorial 95. scene Re Lighting to make your floting bubble.
2nd follow tutorial 89 to make your fringe 3d text or tutorial 47 in C4D.
Find textures from the roit gear for BG and dark ink flowt/watch the intro over and over,use trapcode or cc particle world to create the dark particles + your fav text + OPTICAL FLARES. Andrew gave us all the clues all you have to do is find them:)

can you do atutorials on full length promos like this?

Bloody brilliant!!

First of all – love both title sequences.

There are only two big “but”s I need to constructively criticize:
1) It doesn’t _really_ lok 80′s, only what we today think the 80′s look like (see DVNO for more information on that subject). Of course, due to both the freedom of better technology and the constraints of creating something that is appealing for today’s audience, it’s hard to make something look convincingly period.

2) This is the bad one that’s really bothering me: why does the 80′s hand have five fingers? Where’s the sixth?! The point of these images in Fringe is to be weird and now you’ve used a boring old regular hand.

But still, I have to say that you did a truly great job on those retro titles. Well done!

PS: What is that font at the end (“Created By…”)? Verdana? Didn’t that come out in 1996?

That was absolutely amazing.

Wonderful job
congratulation
& We are waiting the tutorial

Thanks Andrew K.

You are sooooo cool Andrew.

I wonder how long he had to keep that a secret.

Excellent work AK. Very inspirational

can you do atutorials on full length promos like this?

hahaha this looks SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO awesome andrew!

you are my hero, mister! ;D

AwesomeeeeEEEEE!
the realism you added in the movie we cannot compare with the original..

really really nice!

f’ck Andrew HAHA’ ^^

Yes! This was awesome!

hahaha…you can really see the difference…great job

esse foi o melhor vídeo que vocês ja fizeram, faz o cinema parecer coisa de amador
nota 1000

That’s great! Ha!

haha I love the show Fringe and that sequence matches perfectly for the retro kinda look! AMAZING job!

Excellent Work! Gotta learn some more 3D animation, that was amazing!

So brilliant. You really nailed it. I started laughing cos it was so on-the-spot.

super job on the 85 version….it brings me back!

Only criticism is that although the graphics and music emulate the era well, the overall graphics are too “clean” and “modern”. It needs to be a bit softer and less perfect.

I bet it would be more difficult to re create an 80′s Sci Fi intro by using the same techniques back then than emulating it using modern technologies.

Really great work! Perfect adaption of the modern intro! The whole style of the classic intro fits perfectly in the time!

I love the tron look on that composition.

I was 11 in ’85 and felt 11 all over again
awesome stuff u do.

I just watched this last night and thought it was so creative and an amazing touch to the episode. And then I go your site today and see you were the one who created this! All the visuals were just perfect in conveying the retro feel. Awesome job!

OMG IT WAS YOU! SQUEE!

I love the “wiggle” on the “optical” elements.

Combined with the pokey synth title music, it’s a winner!

Great as usual. i espesialy liked the mechanic feel of the last one.

I’d love for you to make a breakdown of these 2 introes.

Thanks also for identifying the font, Andrew!

Anyone who wants to learn how to play the music theme to the Fringe intro, I made a video tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp0fMA5ssC4

Hey Andrew,
Could it be possible for you to make a tutorial similar to this kind of video. Like where one scene is in continuation with the next but isn’t nearly a part of the next.
Or could someone direct to a place where i can find this.

Thanks

Great work!
I think it’s time for me to buy some Optical Flares!

Cool. Really cool!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbaG3C1GQ-c

Is the link on the post?… i didnt find but this is what i found in youtube… is that the kramer titles?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbaG3C1GQ-c

@Angel
Yes, that’s it. but here is the link Kramer put at the end of the blog post.

http://www.videocopilot.net/videoblog/Retro_Titles_via_1985/

it has the original, followed by the 1985 one.

Cool! I really liked it, I would like him a lesson on this topic:)

Hey Andrew, isn’t that CyFy font just Amelia? Looks the same, like when they used it for Yellow Submarine, 40 years ago, heh.

Regardless, you’re doing tremendous work. I found this site via Reddit, and I’m glad I did!

lol, that was great! Thanks for sharing man…

the best TV Show I’ve ever seen,and your tutorials are also the best!

*I am from Hong Kong, student of HKDI, please accept my poor english

Andrew I have a request

I want you to tutorial of the word that comes out of the water, and water dripping them

Thank you very much

At first I thought the first one was yours, i think that was Thinking Particles used in the modern “Fringe” title

So cooool Andy ¡¡¡

Please, we would like to see a tutorial of that kind of graphics ¡¡¡¡¡¡

Thank you

Wow… This is some crazy sh1%. I just watched the episode of Fringe, and the very next thing i did was climb behind my PC and thought “hmm.. im gonna mess around in after effects, lets visit videocopilot.net” and there is the intro! How cool is that? Anyway, keep up the good work making tutorials Andrew (and probably a whole team of people)

Wow thats insane, great job!! My favourite part was when the camera zoomed through those dark lines and then the hand appeared and the lines were on the hand. Very creative ;p

Hahaha, so cool!

WOW Andrew! Great design! You have done it well.
Actually it really interests me to hear from you how you’ve created the Chyron process effect…

Ohh fringe, I Think that serie has great visual effects, a question, do you work in that serie?

That is 52 different types of awesome.

Really funny and so well done man, could totally buy that as a show title of the time (albeit a damn good one for back then). Reminded me of Tomorrow’s World, Doctor Who and the early X-Files title sequences.

Genius!

I have been watching this show for a long time, and the introduction was one of my favorite parts. Thanks Andrew. You make Fringe so awesome.

Hey, stop here! You’re a crack!!!

It’s awesome, congratulations.

I think you’re lake the peopple who are in the films supervising the special effects!

Very good work

I don´t know that the “Fringe” Intro was made by you

Excellent !

You are the After Effects GOD !

PS: sry about my english – i am from germany

this just seriously made my day and made the show just that much better for me
the intro is amazing and if you made a tutorial on how to do either the retro or modern one I’d be ecstatic.

-The Zanman.

Exelent as ussual

Really “fresh” title. Is so vintage to be FRESH! LOL I know, thats no sense! But this titles is very cool! Great Andrew!

Wow

The first flash light looks like Brazil map (or Africa as u said before)

Hey, I got maxi confused… Somebody praises things from first one ‘n’ some from second one… What the **** is that? Which one did he make up? Sorry for that, but there words like “original” or “1985 version” are loosing sense, because everyone messes with them at will^^ However, both of them look awesome so “GREAT WORK, ANDREW”