QuickTime & AE CS5: The 64 bit Question

After Effects CS5 will to be a 64 bit application only. At the moment QuickTime is only a 32 bit application and users of other 64 bit applications like (3D max 64 bit, Nuke 64 bit, etc.) do not have the ability to import or export any QuickTime files.  So seeing how QuickTime is one of most popular formats that has been supported by After Effects since the beginning, what will happen with AE CS5?

I received direct word from the Adobe After Effects product manager himself: Michael Coleman
____________________________________________________________________

He said this:

“QuickTime is very important and we will continue to have QuickTime support in the next After Effects. It involved extra effort on our part to work around the QuickTime issues, but it’s looking good now.”

____________________________________________________________________

It seems you can count on QuickTime support in After Effects CS5. And in a few years, a robot in every home.

99 RESPONSES TO "QUICKTIME & AE CS5: THE 64 BIT QUES..."
January 16th, 2010 @ 3:52 pm
Nice information. Thanks
daryl
January 16th, 2010 @ 3:56 pm
info on quicktime's cool, but I'm holding out for the robot
Daniel
January 16th, 2010 @ 3:58 pm
When will After Effects CS5 out?

feels like CS4 just got out...
January 16th, 2010 @ 3:58 pm
Thanks for the info. ;)
jashan
January 16th, 2010 @ 4:00 pm
good to know...OMG,the robots are coming! Everyone run!
January 16th, 2010 @ 4:04 pm
I defenately need a new computer then thanks for the forewarning.
monroe
January 16th, 2010 @ 4:05 pm
What would the issue be in importing/exporting the files.. is the quicktime format copyrighted and therefore requires an install of QT in order to read any QT files? I had never thought of this. Same question for the export.
January 16th, 2010 @ 4:06 pm
This is good to know. I will probably make the leap from CS3 to CS5 when it's released.
January 16th, 2010 @ 4:14 pm
Isnt Smoke a 64bit app? Because it can work directly with QT files.
Justin
January 16th, 2010 @ 4:21 pm
Hey Andrew,
Thanks for answering my QT 64bit question. Sounds promising.

Cheers.
J
January 16th, 2010 @ 4:32 pm
Oh nice, free at last!
QT is the only reason I'm not running 64bit OS.
Adobe is the only reason I'm not running Linux...
One more step, please :)
oras
January 16th, 2010 @ 4:43 pm
why didnt they support avi or mkv
what the spechally in mov that make him butter
for gfx software
January 16th, 2010 @ 5:01 pm
When is cs5 coming out anyways?
January 16th, 2010 @ 5:03 pm
Speaking of robots, any of you heard of the guy who put this together??

http://ve3d.ign.com/videos/play/64128/Other/General/Trailer/Panic-Attack-Short-Film/Flash-Video
Craig
January 16th, 2010 @ 5:05 pm
Andrew, I thought that was why Apple developed QuicktimeX?
Kenahn
January 16th, 2010 @ 5:21 pm
For all those wondering CS5 is coming out, I think andrew said in an earlier blog post that it might come out later this year, but im not sure
Allen Ellis
January 16th, 2010 @ 5:35 pm
Pretty sure CS5 is due out in April. There's lots of info at http://cs5.org
Marshall Chaney
January 16th, 2010 @ 5:40 pm
This is Windows only, just FYI. Quicktime X on Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard is 64bit all the way
Potemkin
January 16th, 2010 @ 5:53 pm
to Julien:
there is no any problem with QT in 64 OS. CS3 and CS4 without any problems importing files in QT. The only problem is the import from 64 bit applications.
January 16th, 2010 @ 6:15 pm
as Potemkin said.
I have vista 64bit.
The only problem for me is that quick time player is not working on browsers.

I'm sick and tired of incompatibility :/
Sergio Jr
January 16th, 2010 @ 6:22 pm
Thanks for the information... xD
January 16th, 2010 @ 6:37 pm
Quicktime should also make some collaboration with Adobe to work hand in hand in making Motion Graphics improved.
January 16th, 2010 @ 7:16 pm
Regarding Quicktime X - After effects CS5 will almost certainly be using Quicktime 7 (running as an external 32bit process) to handle quicktime IO. Quicktime X is a totally new architecture and as such lacks almost all the functionality of the old (Carbon) Quicktime. It doesn't even support 3rd party video codecs.

You might not have realised that though, since Apple have made it fairly invisible to end users. If you try and run a quicktime movie in Quicktime X, it actually does what I described above and spawns a Quicktime 7 helper app to decode it for you - then plays it back in the Quicktime X window.

I'm hoping Apple are able to make Quicktime X a true successor to Quicktime as soon as possible. FCP is heavily dependent on it and until QTX has support for all the missing functionality, it's not likely we'll be seeing a 64bit FCP studio.
Fuzzee
January 16th, 2010 @ 6:29 pm
Right on Andrew! Thanks for tracking this info down. QuickTime is my favorite wrapper.
Alex Nonnato
January 16th, 2010 @ 7:39 pm
Well I'm running on Win 7 64 bits and all that thinks sounds very well. the difrence between photoshop 32 and 64 is notorious especially in RAW work files. now we are changing to HD this change is necessary. I'll wait until April to see the difference but the Videocopilot's Plug-Ins will have to wait more to run in AE 64 i guess and all plug ins for AE i guess too. I hope I'm wrong and it will be not necessary to wait.

Thanks
klkaus
January 16th, 2010 @ 7:40 pm
Thanks for that.
What´s up? Quicktime. What´s up?
Stephen Gentle
January 16th, 2010 @ 8:27 pm
@Dan Sollis - that's not exactly true - although QTX does spawn a 32 bit Quicktime process to decode most video types, there are some (like H.264) that it does itself.

Also, from the 64 bit application developer's perspective on Mac OS X, if you use the QTKit framework (introduced in 10.4) then you can compile your app as 64 bit and it handles the 32 bit decoding in a separate process for you. It also only takes minimal changes to tell it to use Quicktime X instead of Quicktime 7 once QTX matures. I'm guessing that the fact that Final Cut Pro's user interface is written in Carbon is the reason that it's not 64 bit yet. But I bet they started moving it to Cocoa a long time ago, so I'm expecting the next release to probably be Cocoa based and 64 bit.
fat3_gamer
January 16th, 2010 @ 9:23 pm
thanks for that :)
like the robot ^^
January 16th, 2010 @ 11:47 pm
tanks for information.........
January 16th, 2010 @ 11:48 pm
We won't all have robots if Will Smith keeps destroying them like that :)
Curtis H
January 16th, 2010 @ 11:54 pm
I asked Michael Coleman about the QuickTime issue way back in October and he responded that same day with the following:

Indeed, this presented a challenge for us. But rest assured, QuickTime is critical and After Effects will continue to have the same QuickTime support on Mac OS and Windows. --MC

I then posted his response here: http://www.videocopilot.net/blog/2009/10/ae-cs5-64-bit-only/

I realize that it was a big thread and was probably overlooked for that reason, but for the record this info has been on the VC site for a few months now. :)
Curtis H.
VFX-Anomaly
January 17th, 2010 @ 12:21 am
I like Robots, and when they can play nice with Quicktime
I suspect I will never hurt another robot again.
January 17th, 2010 @ 3:11 am
Robots are fine, until they become self-aware.
January 17th, 2010 @ 3:16 am
....Also 64-bit native is coming to Premiere Pro.
Peter
January 17th, 2010 @ 3:21 am
Autodesk had to use a similar hack in order to make the Mac version of Smoke work with QuickTime. I'm very concerned, however, to what extent Apple will maintain and support the old QuickTime and when and if they are going to bring out some replacement technology. QuickTime X surely isn't one. What happens if QT32 won't run on OS X 10.7 or Windows 8? Then Adobe will be forced to let go of QT, no matter how much effort they are willing to put in.
January 17th, 2010 @ 4:51 am
I have been waiting for 64bit for a long time. I hope it will be usable.

Do you know when it is reachable?

Cheers, your site is very useable and cool.

Misi
Hungary
poison
January 17th, 2010 @ 4:57 am
Hi Andrew,

Thanks for this "resolving" answer directly from the core.
Surely Adobe will find a hack to access 32bit QT with cheating or something (like with their mega mighty MULTI-CORE rendering - that initializes a bunch of AE tasks with the same project) ...

.. But the other apps, like 3dsmax or Nuke, Fusion and many others, will probably be doomed...


All this is making me very unheapy, because, i am tired of converting QT to AVI, even using the Lagarith loseless codec, which is free and works steady 64bit, has an alpha channel ...

sad-man
ben
January 17th, 2010 @ 5:21 am
everything is 64 bit!
January 17th, 2010 @ 6:15 am
I am hoping to update my PC this year and I'm thinking of possibly going 64-bit, but I've heard things about applications not working. Should I go for 64-bit, considering lots of things are heading that direction?
Brett Perry
January 17th, 2010 @ 6:56 am
This is typical of Apple. They have had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the new millenium. Until recently with the new intel processor based Macs, their computers were slooow compared to PCs. My Mac friends complain to me everytime they upgrade their operating systems about the lack of support from Apple for older software applications or devise complicated work arounds.
Why should Adobe even support the Apple operating system? Apple has less than 10% of the computer market and intends Motion to someday be a real competitor to AE. As long as there are other file types (like avi) that can be used instead of Quicktime, I say to heck with Quicktime and Apple. They apparently are more concerned with remaining proprietory and making money with their iphones and ipods.
January 17th, 2010 @ 8:31 am
I am not even on CS4 yet, but I might have to just wait, and upgrade all the way to CS5 when it comes out.

Thanks for checking on this Andrew.
Josh Johnson
January 17th, 2010 @ 9:01 am
Just to note. C4D on windows running 64bit can handle quicklime.
Kaouthia
January 17th, 2010 @ 9:10 am
I've been waiting for Apple to catch up and produce a 64Bit version of Quicktime ever since I upgraded to 64Bit Windows (32Bit is still bugged running on x64 and there's still no controls with the web version). Now that many PCs are sold directly from stores with 64Bit Windows pre-installed, you'd think Apple would get the hint.

I'm not holding my breath.
Gunnahan
January 17th, 2010 @ 9:20 am
Andrew!

shame on you!

how can you link such a bad quality youtube trailer!!!

especially when this entry is about 64bit systems and a codec that is about quality ^^
personman
January 17th, 2010 @ 10:48 am
Why the hell isn't 64-bit software completely backwards-compatible? Can't it just have content with... less bits? Just quantize the data to compensate for it.
Thomas
January 17th, 2010 @ 3:38 pm
I'm wondering why no one is blamig these morons at Apple.
Bradley Bell
January 17th, 2010 @ 4:16 pm
Thanks for the info Andrew, Know what to expect with the next generation of After effects and now ill know what im getting for chriatmas or my birth in a few years 'A Robot'
D3FO3
January 17th, 2010 @ 4:28 pm
Thanks for keeping us in the know man!
andrew lee
January 17th, 2010 @ 4:29 pm
@Drew

from Wikipedia

Ataque de Pánico! (Spanish for Panic Attack!) is a 2009 Uruguayan sci-fi short film, directed by independent filmmaker Fede Álvarez.

Álvarez uploaded the film to YouTube on November 3, 2009. Following widespread media coverage, he was offered a $30 million Hollywood deal to develop and direct a film, which will be produced by Sam Raimi.
nick b
January 17th, 2010 @ 4:46 pm
quicktime x on snow leopard is true 64 bit. i did take a screen shot but i cant upload any attachments here. but i can assure you it is true 64 bit. snow leopard does not boot in a 64 bit kernal but if you hold the keys 6 and 4 and switch on your mac it will do. 64 bit apps run in 64 bit anyway though.
January 17th, 2010 @ 5:01 pm
Adobe Company Is Creazy!
syaf
January 17th, 2010 @ 5:47 pm
yay for coleman and robots!!
Michael
January 17th, 2010 @ 6:37 pm
Lol, has quicktime X even been released for windows yet?
January 17th, 2010 @ 8:03 pm
one of those questions that I don't really think about unless someone else brings it up, this is very interesting, and a great little tid bit of info that will make me look smarter at work on Tuesday, Thanks Andrew! :D
January 18th, 2010 @ 3:38 am
I, Robot 2 is coming out in 2012
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1083849/
We can make those effects on our 128 bits AE CS7
Marcelo
January 18th, 2010 @ 4:18 am
I hope I, Robot could come out before december 2012... The world's going to end, you know...
sunil thapa (nepal)
January 18th, 2010 @ 4:19 am
thnx a lot ....... useful information .........i haven't notice about quick time till yet......... but now ....... thnx a lost andrew
Skrapi
January 18th, 2010 @ 6:56 am
Great News, Looks like Im going to have to get Windows 7 after all. Could someone mail me to let me know the date of release for CS5?

Thanks,
Skrapi

Skrapi@live.co.uk
January 18th, 2010 @ 7:25 am
I think there is a typo in this post. Are you saying that CS5 will be 64 bit only? Cause it says, "will to be." Not trying to be funny...I really don't know. :-) Also will this AE recognize more then 4 gigs of ram. Cause my CS3 doesn't?

Thanks,

Jay
MikeAck
January 18th, 2010 @ 9:40 am
Well, CS4 has been out for almost a year and a half already if you think about it. So I will probably guess that CS5 will be released in September or at the latest October. I have been sticking with CS3 and I'm holding off on upgrading my computer until this fall when CS5 will probably be released. At least that is how Adobe has worked in the past.
Jacky Liang
January 18th, 2010 @ 11:22 am
lol andrew u have any idea how many people followed the link u posted? the owner of that vid is probably wondering why did his video became so popular all of the sudden and who the hell is andrew kramer :D
Feru
January 18th, 2010 @ 12:27 pm
That's right, it's necessary upgrade to 64 Bit when released; but Andrew; You should have your own edition from the After Effects CS5 Andrew Kramer Edition, a personal edition for you Andrew xdxd!!
Fibirdy
January 18th, 2010 @ 6:44 pm
Will wait for CS5 to be released.

Aleap from CS3 to CS5.

CS5 ... when?

Robots ?! ... hmm
January 18th, 2010 @ 8:37 pm
Andrew, a question: What you think about AVATAR?
Joraph
January 18th, 2010 @ 10:33 pm
Relax guys. maybe in the next 2 decades, we will be discussing 128bit OS & AE(X) 128bit.
Anish
January 19th, 2010 @ 5:57 am
I'm running on windows 7 ultimate x 86 i think it will still run on mine and isn't After Effects CS5 supposed to be released in the summer of 2011?
January 19th, 2010 @ 6:03 am
HAPPY NEW YEAR...
i've learned so muched with your website and the forum that i want to wish you all the best for this new year :
http://tishuggah.com/carte_de_voeux/2010/

Hope you'll enjoy it.
Marek
January 19th, 2010 @ 6:13 am
@MikeAck, well on several sites they are talking about APRIL as release date of CS5

Marek
Marek
January 19th, 2010 @ 6:15 am
@Jamie R., I think you need 64bit system to recognize more than 4GB od RAM.

Marek
January 19th, 2010 @ 6:20 am
oh , i like 32bit system.
i dont use 64bit!
Makarand
January 19th, 2010 @ 7:56 am
64 bit AE

that's quite advanced.....most of the users are having 32bit operating system and maybe in year or two we can see everybody using it

dont know but i am still on CS3..not even touched CS4...it looks like world is running at speed of 200 and still driving 40...

Thank you sir..for this info...
Hari
January 19th, 2010 @ 9:10 am
This is one of those things i don't really like about Apple. They make you get addicted and don't update others have to bend over backwards to work with them. Just a piss off atitude.
January 19th, 2010 @ 2:10 pm
[...] Michael Coleman, product manager for Adobe After Effects talks a bit about what 64bit CS5 means for after effects plugin developers, and their users. Also, take a look at Videocolipots’ post on quickTime & AE CS5: The 64 bit Question. [...]
Cory
January 19th, 2010 @ 4:35 pm
when you said "a robot in every home", I was expecting you to link to a Rocky 4 clip...

I, Robot? Disappointing =(
88z
January 20th, 2010 @ 12:44 am
I just had a meltdown in my pants. wow.
Miho
January 20th, 2010 @ 2:35 pm
Correct me if i`m wrong but isn`t Mac OS a full 64 bit OS now with all it`s programs rewritten into 64 bit code ? This means Apple already owns a 64 bit Quick Time ?
Willmer
January 20th, 2010 @ 6:56 pm
I am stuck about my next computer. I have always been against an Apple, but now I am actually considering a fully loaded Apple. Since Apple is 64 bit and very stable it should be a no brainer except for I don't know the MAC OS.

On the other hand, I could build a clone with dual quad core, 16GB of RAM and a 1TB drive for half the price. But if I do this then I will be stuck with Windows and all their issues.

With AE CS5 working on 64 bit only, Windows is known for having issues with 64 bit drivers.

Part of me says Heads = Apple and Tails = Windows PC...
RD
January 21st, 2010 @ 12:07 pm
@Willmer

If you plan to actually upgrade your PC without compromising on cost you will have a stable system without worrying about driver issues.

The differences between Windows and OSX are very few when it comes to video editing or any graphic design workflow. Don't let any notion of stability fool you.
January 21st, 2010 @ 1:21 pm
CS5 already?... I'm pretty comfortable with CS4, it usually takes me a year after the initial release to get up to date with these adobe releases. I'm not what you'd call an early adopter. I'm also the sort of guy who has favorite t-shirts and wears them to shreds before 'updating.' grunt, sniff.

Id heard there was going to be some sort of integration between Flash and After Efects, anybody know?
Nick
January 21st, 2010 @ 6:54 pm
Thx for the information u give us
January 21st, 2010 @ 7:41 pm
my question is.did all the plug in works in mac. i just bought a macbook pro and first thing i do was i install after effects cs4 trial. now i like to know did all the plugin are available for mac too.?
Hari
January 21st, 2010 @ 11:42 pm
@willmer

I own both Mac and PC. I dont see any driver issues on 64bit Windows. I got lot of stuff done after buying Windows Workstation and more work done after installing 64bit Win becuase its basically a 8 lane highway when compared to 32bit two lane. Any new vendor releases for MAC lags behind for 6 months atleast. So you are losing the edge. I would suggest Stick to Windows PC or Assemble your own system way more cheaper.
January 22nd, 2010 @ 11:50 am
Great! Now I won't be able to run Pro Tools 8 and After Effects together! Thanks alot Adobe.. thanks..
Josh Star
January 24th, 2010 @ 8:06 am
Quicktime X for mac is 64bit so that should work fine!
Alias
January 24th, 2010 @ 10:00 am
good info thanks
January 25th, 2010 @ 10:00 pm
Hello Andrew:
Just a quick question here from big fans of you.
Because we have filmed with a "JVC pro hd GY 100" our default video codec when importing is MPEG. We were using After effects CS3 & as you know doesn't support MPEG Files so we decided to convert them to MOV YUV so we can use them in our MAC. The thing is that we get a horrible green line on the right border of the video everytime the shot goes black. Do you know why? How can we avoid that?
Thanks.
Sonia and Miriam.
P.S. Please check our website is a fake 3D website in flash: www.ignoto.es
Big fans of you from Worcester (MASS)
X
January 27th, 2010 @ 1:12 pm
Nuke use ffmpeg ;)
Stanley Lu
February 2nd, 2010 @ 1:16 am
i'll install AE CSx on my robot...
and let it handle the problems...
JP
March 27th, 2010 @ 11:36 pm
I have been using Nuke 6 (Mac) and don't have any problem importing or rendering QTs
March 29th, 2010 @ 5:03 am
I’m pretty comfortable with CS4, it usually takes me a year after the initial release to get up to date with these adobe releases. I’m not what you’d call an early adopter.
July 13th, 2010 @ 7:14 am
I'm very comfortable of CS4. Thanks
Shako
July 19th, 2010 @ 4:49 am
I have a CS4 AE and i my prog cant read quicktime can it b bec if that my comp is 64 bit?? if not plz tell me what can i do so it will work for me
August 12th, 2010 @ 6:49 pm
How do I export to QT in AE CS 5? I do not see an option.
August 12th, 2010 @ 7:41 pm
OK, I found it. You have to use the render que.
Roger
September 24th, 2010 @ 3:26 pm
GUYS i have problems exporting my projects, I can only export to SWF, XFL and Premier Pro Project, also I kno that's it is 64bits, so what can I do? where can I get the 64 codecs to export to H.264... and so others like in the past ass Giff and others on CS4 PLIZZZZZZZZZZ HELP MEEEEEE
October 8th, 2010 @ 2:46 am
hello boys!
anyone knows why in ae cs5 there isn't the AVI export?
this option there was in cs4.

thanks bye bye!
March 1st, 2011 @ 7:30 am
I AM NOW USING AE CS5 AND I NEED THE COMPATIBLE VERSION OF QUICK TIME
WHICH PROGRAM I SHOULD HAVE FOR THIS
I HAVE VISTA ULTIMATE SP1 64 BIT.

PLZ SPECIFY ME THE EXACT VERSION OF THAT APPLICATION..
THANKS!
June 4th, 2011 @ 9:14 am
Isnt CS6 around the corner now?
July 6th, 2011 @ 8:36 am
Friend this is very good, now i'm learning
POST A COMMENT!
Before Posting
We're trying to encourage more thoughtful commenting.  Please take a moment to write a meaningful response to this post.
* Name
* Email (will not be published)
Website
* field is required