More 3D Stuff

I’ve been playing in 3D a bit more… This time using particles to control the destruction. It is a bit less precise, notice the overlapping of the first 2 letters, but it is much more robust when using hundreds of pieces.

Basically the text is broken into chunks. They are then turned into particles which “fall apart”. As they fall apart they emit more pieces or chunks so that it looks like pieces are flying everywhere.

In another test, I used reactor to build the base simulation and then had those pieces emit debris. Essentially making half of the composite reflecting real physics and the other half using particles to cheat physics.

106 RESPONSES TO "MORE 3D STUFF"
tinyphizh
December 14th, 2007 @ 8:46 pm
awesome! I cant wait to se some tutorials on this and more!
December 14th, 2007 @ 9:12 pm
NIcely done!!
Fonzie
December 14th, 2007 @ 9:14 pm
this looks so awesom!
Walter Alvarado
December 14th, 2007 @ 9:19 pm
Andrew, i guess this look almost like the best tut u r gonna do,
GREAT!, keep up the good work.
JT
December 14th, 2007 @ 9:19 pm
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i checked also the "hi res" version of that image ...1211px x 539px .
Is that a random size from max or it was exported from AFX? ...
Could you give us a few tips about how to export from AFX to that kind of resolution?
i mean .....I tried to create a widescreen composition with PAR anamorphic 2:1 and in my previews window look fine but when i export, it's not that wide at all .
Thanks AK ....
December 14th, 2007 @ 9:24 pm
Tut =D
December 14th, 2007 @ 9:30 pm
can we see the videos of these renders please?
NweVCPoster
December 14th, 2007 @ 9:48 pm
Well, I really wish I could say WOW!
But this is not what I was looking for while browsing VC website
No offense but are you not a AE site?

Anyway other than that, I guess I can say whoopie!
December 14th, 2007 @ 9:55 pm
tutorial tutorial tutorial!!!!


are u using 3dsmax or cinema 4d??
December 14th, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
Really nice work Kramer.

Looks some-what complex.

REPLY TO fersh0:

3D Max I presume (As he mentioned in previous posts)
December 14th, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
Crap, that's so cool. I'm dropping down on my knees and begging you for s tutorial right now.
Dustin James
December 14th, 2007 @ 10:17 pm
I am extremely excited to see how much more professional you are shaping to be... and willing to share...

Thanks Andrew for inspiration.
Trevor
December 14th, 2007 @ 10:21 pm
JT,
I'm not sure you've done this or not, but your comp setting needs to be set to square pixels, otherwise it kind of works in an anamorphic kind of way. Square pixels will give you exactly what you see in after effects.

And, Andrew, this is looking very cool.
SOW Productions©
December 14th, 2007 @ 10:32 pm
We have decided to buy all your products! My Team/Crew will have the greatist christmas ever. Danke!
Andrew
December 14th, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
the suspension is killing me. can't wait for this tutorial, looks great
December 14th, 2007 @ 10:53 pm
Tutorial.
Suvir
December 14th, 2007 @ 10:55 pm
Totally wicked....
toni
December 14th, 2007 @ 11:12 pm
is there going to be some tutorials on this subject?
Tuan
December 14th, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
look awesome!!! want my name to be broke like that :P

is that 3ds max?

tut + project file please =p~ !!!
brennan
December 15th, 2007 @ 12:00 am
Im envious of you! share your knowledge!!!
Doug
December 15th, 2007 @ 12:03 am
Looks super cool!
griffo
December 15th, 2007 @ 12:17 am
I'm glad that you are having fun with your test.............. really
December 15th, 2007 @ 12:28 am
Stop teasing :) post a tutorial already.
tashi
December 15th, 2007 @ 12:31 am
pleae tut ....thanks in advance....free tibet
Andre Prior
December 15th, 2007 @ 12:36 am
How about a tutorial about this????
December 15th, 2007 @ 1:59 am
that is looking very nice. But what about a tut? we are waiting...
me!
December 15th, 2007 @ 2:08 am
man, that looks totally awesome!
It would be great to mix this kind of effects with 'real footage'... you know... a wall exploding in 3Ds max,
add it to the real footage (sam running away from the wall) xD... some color correction.... and.... yeeha!
henri
December 15th, 2007 @ 4:05 am
Would be nice to see tutorial about this
morten enoksen
December 15th, 2007 @ 4:34 am
ANdrew, looks cool. If you're gonna show us some tutorials on this 3D stuff, please show it in Cinema 4D also! You told us that Maxon has paid you to do some tutorials, and you managed to do the 3D text so good in C4D!

Think about us C4D users to:D Merry Cristmas
putemonsteret
December 15th, 2007 @ 4:50 am
great! can't wait for a tutorial
December 15th, 2007 @ 5:34 am
I agree with ' NweVCPoster ' , I know that andrews AFX tutorials are non second to anyones in the plannet ... That is why i visit this site. But for 3D there is a million sites out there .. I like what you are doing , arr but We like AE stuff better , cos ur a AE God ! ... keep up the good work , and hope to see more AE Magic from you then 3DS work ;)
Dan
December 15th, 2007 @ 6:07 am
I think its great to have here AE and 3D tutorials
andrew explain both very nice and easy to follow and im sure people can find a use of these 3d tutorials with there work in AE
so keep up the tutorials for both of them
Superbad
December 15th, 2007 @ 6:25 am
Who is 'we'? I don't mind coming on here, and seeing some 3D stuff. Andrew Kramer is a talented guy, in more than after effects. Theres over 50 after effects tutorials, thats enough to wow me. AND on top of that theres random cool stuff, like post's about 3D. And plus, if you take motion graphics and such seriously, you will learn knowing 3D is really helpful in getting a job. And sometimes its essential. Sure, there are sites where you can see 3D stuff, but now you can come to ONE site, for cool 3D and After effects. Pretty neat IMO. ;)
eebc
December 15th, 2007 @ 6:28 am
TUTORIAL!!!
russ
December 15th, 2007 @ 6:40 am
which version of 3ds max are you using? i just bought 2008 version and i hope that i can learn a thing or two from you about it.
Tim
December 15th, 2007 @ 6:41 am
It would be a great addition to this tutorial if you could also figure out how to correctly export the camera data to an RPF sequence with extra channel info and then bring it into AE for some post effects.
Some Guy
December 15th, 2007 @ 6:54 am
I think great time is coming. Now where is my old 3ds Max 8 disc...
David
December 15th, 2007 @ 6:54 am
andrew, you should make a 3D christmas tree
Abe
December 15th, 2007 @ 7:38 am
Ya, Navod who is we? Your multiple personalities I presume. And why is everyone begging for petes sake? People NEED to chill out and let the man perfect his teaching skills, JEEZ!
December 15th, 2007 @ 7:49 am
holy sh*t! this is gonna be massive haha.can't wait!
Another guy
December 15th, 2007 @ 8:17 am
3D rulezzz
Juliano Pajaro
December 15th, 2007 @ 8:24 am
Andrew,
I'm so glad, you're using 3D MAX.
I'll like to see some GOOD tutorials about 3D in your site.
By the way....
When you are going to release the DVD posted..."Online Tutorial DVD Almost Done!
November 30th, 2007"
In this DVD are you going to include some 3d tutorials???
Thanks!!!
Just Amit
December 15th, 2007 @ 8:56 am
looks so good, can't wait!!
December 15th, 2007 @ 8:58 am
you spelt debris wrong lol. I use the particle array to create explosions and i agree it isn't always accurate, it just needs to be tweaked well. I created a tutorial on how to blow up a planet using the particle array. Have a look

http://revver.com/video/529419/affiliate/131540/how-to-blow-up-a-planet-in-3ds-max/
Steve
December 15th, 2007 @ 9:20 am
Hey Andrew....will we be able to follow this tutorial using Cinema 4D or is it just for 3D MAX?

thanks man!
December 15th, 2007 @ 9:57 am
Hi,

Andrew, try to increse the number of vertices in your meshes and play around with the settings of collide-event parameters. It will take more time to compute but it will crash precisely. I do some 3D FX work for local film companies and I mostly use 3D Studio Max with finalRender and Particle Flow system - never used the standard things, because I'm used to think event-driven :)... keep up the good work with AE here, 3D comes in handy sometimes, but its more an addition besides the core of what this website is famous for !
December 15th, 2007 @ 10:25 am
This website is about visual effects and motion graphics. This week 3D, next week who knows. If you guys want to get into more impressive Visual Effects, this kind of stuff is essential. Undoubtedly my 3D stuff will be hinged around After Effects compositing so don't worry. When the 3D part is playing just turn your head.

Don't be afraid...
December 15th, 2007 @ 10:26 am
BTW, I'm sticking to 3D max. But if there is something cool that is better and easier in C4D... I'll use that.
Scott
December 15th, 2007 @ 10:45 am
Hey Andrew, just stick to 3DS Max, it's a cross between Cinema and Maya, it's the medium skilled 3D app, but very powerful IMO.
Mr Higgs
December 15th, 2007 @ 10:48 am
how about a little maya love?
December 15th, 2007 @ 10:50 am
yes 3d max is the best app out there for the public market anyway. You will find most fan films are made with max
Just Amit
December 15th, 2007 @ 11:49 am
i just have to kno... is there ne thing u can't do?
December 15th, 2007 @ 12:26 pm
i really cant wait for seeing a finished destruction and i really hope for a nice Beginner Tut like for AE hehe
Steve
December 15th, 2007 @ 12:44 pm
.....just a matter of opinion when it comes to the 3D apps.
Connor
December 15th, 2007 @ 1:06 pm
WOW.

I seriously can't wait for this tutorial...

hope its soon...
December 15th, 2007 @ 1:09 pm
It is the one I know better...
asd
December 15th, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
maya > max > xsi > lw > 4d > blender
Naim Alwan
December 15th, 2007 @ 2:11 pm
@ AK

Keep up the 3D work, no matter what others say, eventualy they will realise its importance.

Please check out my music video, i adapted about 16 of your online tutorials and used your RiotGear product.... i couldn't have done it with out you (AK) and the copilot crew...

Please give me some feedback guys....

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qFJT_ya5fVg

Thanks and happy after effecting.
Josh Johnson
December 15th, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
Sounds good Andrew teach the program you know best. I have C4D but who cares I can still learn from 3ds max tut. Aslo, the AE compositing part will be awesome no doubt! So glad you are tapping into 3d vfx.
russ
December 15th, 2007 @ 5:06 pm
Andrew,

if you could sum up your 3d modeling technique and how you are able to look at or visualize an image and transfer it into a 3d app in one or two sentences, what would it be?
CEdric
December 15th, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
Hey, I've used 3ds max, and I'm pretty sure it uses the havoc physics enginge, yes, just like in Half Life 2, and the source engine.

Here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havok_%28software%29

I'm just saying, unless it's being rendered or physics sim. Just saying...
John Paite
December 15th, 2007 @ 9:58 pm
Andrew, Im saying thank you beforehand..I'm gonna learn so much from your 3Dsmax tuts..Sometimes I can watch 10 hrs of dvds and learn nothing but watch your 10 mins of tuts and learn alot more. Ur a good teacher..Sensei :P
Ron Crockett
December 16th, 2007 @ 1:49 am
Just wondering if you have heard of Blastcode?
http://www.blastcode.com/

Andrew and Co. simply the finest work
Thnx
Migha CG
December 16th, 2007 @ 2:51 am
Go Andrew! Blow up that Bridge! :D This one is going to be awesome
Marc
December 16th, 2007 @ 4:58 am
Hy Andrew,

greetings from germany. Cool to see you playing around with Max. One tip from my side. When destroying things in Max or other 3D applications, you need very much time to render such effects and have less influence on the result. Instead of using Max to build the debris I recommend to do that in AE. In my works I used just the basic destruction created in 3D and all the dust and particles were filmmaterial or particles. Very nice reference for this go around is the making of from "Black Hawk Down". Check that, you will see....

Greetings Marc
December 16th, 2007 @ 5:02 am
Sorry guys i mean 'I' ... hay check this out ..
Even digital-tutors follow andrews Tutorials .. i mean they even taken ideas from
andrews Basic Training Tutorial :) ..

http://digitaltutors.com/dtv_/z_poster/ps_maya14.mov

Andrew rules :)
December 16th, 2007 @ 6:22 am
@ AK

Keep up the 3D work, no matter what others say, eventualy they will realise its importance.

Could someone explain what Maxon Mograph is For?

Please check out my music video, i adapted about 16 of your online tutorials and used your RiotGear product…. i couldn’t have done it with out you (AK) and the copilot crew…

Please give me some feedback guys….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaJfTo4pN04

Thanks and happy after effecting.
morten enoksen
December 16th, 2007 @ 8:28 am
"BTW, I’m sticking to 3D max. But if there is something cool that is better and easier in C4D… I’ll use that."


Okey.. SO u'll stick to 3dsmax, but can you atleast explain a possible way for us C4D users to accomplish the same effect?
December 16th, 2007 @ 8:34 am
Oh Andrew! You bastard! I can't wait much longer when post images like this! YOU THE BEST, NO DOUBT! Brotherly love!
illegalD
December 16th, 2007 @ 8:56 am
Its gonna be a nice xmas, blowing up bridges and stuff :)

@Naim: Thats a really cool and professional Video you made!!!

Although I dont like the Music that much, I wanted to see the whole Video.
The look is awesome

How long did you take for this?
Tim
December 16th, 2007 @ 10:40 am
I'm so glad to hear that you will be sticking to Max!

I read 3D World Magazine and they have tutorials in something like 10 different 3D apps. The bottom line is that if you really want to do a certain effect, you will figure it out in your own 3D application if someone shows you the basic outline.

This looks like it will be a great tutorial. I think you try not to use 3rd party plugins, but setting it on fire with Fumefx would be cool too. (I know you used Particlar in a tutorial, so who knows...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6jmhHmkRoA

pretty cool stuff
Tim
December 16th, 2007 @ 10:46 am
Some clothsim would be great too. Here is a sample of a real creative use:

http://motionographermedia.com/psyop/Gifts_1_G_FX_Sm_Prog.mov
casko
December 16th, 2007 @ 11:28 am
plz plz plz tutorialllllllll PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Connor
December 16th, 2007 @ 11:43 am
Possibly the tutorial will be ready for later on today?
December 16th, 2007 @ 1:52 pm
WOWOMGROFLAMO! This is going to be the best tut!! I share the fetish of smashing things up to Andrew!:D :)
December 16th, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
@ illegalD

It didn't start out as a music video it began as a poem with some visuals, that might be why the music isn't that good. It took about 8 months to do but most of that was wainting for ram previews.

Could someone explain what Maxon Mograph is For?
Legacy
December 16th, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
naim alwan - I'm digging it. Nice job.

Andrew - I'm loving all the tuts, and I'm really liking the 3D integration. This is exactly the kind of stuff I've been looking for. Check out the 3DS Master Series volume 7: Film Effects. It's got a nice tutorial about making a fireball shoot down the aisle of a plane. Can't wait for this tutorial and hopefully LOTS more 3d integration. Thanks.

Legacy
Homer
December 16th, 2007 @ 6:16 pm
Hey Andrew, this looks rele cool, but im confused...is this done in 3ds max or in after effects?

Can't wait for the tutorial!
casko
December 16th, 2007 @ 7:38 pm
waiting :(
December 16th, 2007 @ 9:21 pm
ID GIVE MY KIDNEY TO HAVE YOU TEACH ME THIS . YOU TURN 1 YEAR OF SCHOOL INTO 1 WEEK OF VIDEO TUTORIALS .. I SERIOULY THINK YOU WOULD BE THE BEST TEACHER EVER ... IN A FORMAL SETTING .. BUT YOUR ALLREADY THE BEST BY FAR IN THIS SETTING
Codemonkey
December 17th, 2007 @ 7:03 am
Hey Andrew,

I was wondering why this blog has no hit counter.... Just curious to see how many people hit it per day.. I frequent it at least 5 times a day for any update etc etc...


Why not add an RSS feed?

Just an idea...

GREAT WORK by the way!!

And as for all the impatient dudes on here waiting for your next tute, chill... all good things are worth waiting for..
December 17th, 2007 @ 7:27 am
wow!!!!! so good ..what i have ever see... come on ~~
Connor
December 17th, 2007 @ 7:35 am
Perhaps on the 17th?????

(I'm in UK so today is the already the 17th!!!)

k, looking forward to it....
casko
December 17th, 2007 @ 8:06 am
andrew are you alive?
December 17th, 2007 @ 8:10 am
anytime now :)
December 17th, 2007 @ 8:23 am
tutorial tutorial tutotial!!!!!!!!!!!!
casko
December 17th, 2007 @ 9:25 am
cant wait anymore i need this one :|

i refresh the site every 5 minutes lol

andrew u rock, first with AE, now with 3D, u rulez man
December 17th, 2007 @ 9:59 am
People please, we're all anticipated and horny!
ATB
December 17th, 2007 @ 10:48 am
Looks great! I would love to see this in action. And see the tutorial of course! :D
Angel
December 17th, 2007 @ 1:21 pm
What tools are you using to learn 3DS MAX?
December 18th, 2007 @ 12:05 am
verry nice job..but can i ask how to get the 3d project of this tutorials..thanks
d
December 18th, 2007 @ 3:28 am
That's too bad you're sticking with Max, you've just shut out your Mac users from this wonderful 3D. =)
ale
December 18th, 2007 @ 6:19 am
PLEASE MAKE A TUTORIAL OF THIS!.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!
:^D
Niklas
December 18th, 2007 @ 9:47 am
AWESOME!!!!!!! PLZZZZ make more 3d tutorial :D
December 18th, 2007 @ 10:21 am
that's amazing! can't wait for the tutorial
Nate
December 19th, 2007 @ 3:32 pm
I know u r using 3dmax but if you do a tut on this we can still follow along with C4D right?
Ali
December 21st, 2007 @ 12:24 am
Excellent Job
will like to see if you do more

Thanks....!!!!
fmw
December 21st, 2007 @ 12:11 pm
Hey. Great work throughout your products and tutorials. Another nice MAX fracturing tutorial using Particle Flow in Max 6:
http://www.allanmckay.com/tut/test.swf
December 21st, 2007 @ 1:08 pm
great job man, u are so inspire... please put some 3dstudio max tutorials, the way u explain things is so easy, better than those dvds, by the way if u dont know by now, check Allan McKay dvds, are good but a little hard to follow.
thanks man
viva ecuador
December 22nd, 2007 @ 1:21 am
U have to check out Blastcode for this.
Its a maya plugin for explosions and really fast.
December 28th, 2007 @ 7:27 am
did anyone else wonder what the word was before andrew shattered it?
DaniK
January 1st, 2008 @ 4:12 pm
it would be really cool if u could mix 3ds max and after effects and create a combined
tutorial like the blood cell ones from earlier..i think they are very good and packed with good stuff to learn!!
happy new year!!
delali
January 5th, 2008 @ 11:59 am
if ur using 3ds max...try seting the texts as individual objects rather than typing in full in the text space in the create rollout. then give them individual masses. that way they wont pass through each other. when they come in contact... they bounce off or knock each other over..(using reactor that is)
vd
January 12th, 2008 @ 8:29 am
Hey Andrew,
about 3dsmax destructions, you can find some tuts here:
www.deko.lt
December 8th, 2008 @ 6:56 pm
tutorial please
November 28th, 2010 @ 10:32 am
Looks awesome! How are you so good at EVERYTHING
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