How to achieve this made of Fire/smoke effect in aftereffect

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How to achieve this made of Fire/smoke effect in aftereffect

Postby jahnihaze on 08/25/2015, 3:04 am

After searching everywhere online possible for a tutorial,and coming up empty handed i was wondering if anyone knows how to make this "made of fire" manipulation effect possible in after effects. I need to know this for an upcoming music video so any help or info is much appreciated the sooner the better.Thanks
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Re: How to achieve this made of Fire/smoke effect in aftereffect

Postby Guitarboy2828 on 08/26/2015, 1:48 am

I'm assuming you want to create a fire effect on the actual band members, not on a skeleton? or are you wanting it to look like the picture?
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Re: How to achieve this made of Fire/smoke effect in aftereffect

Postby Farmfield on 08/26/2015, 2:10 am

There's lots of tutorials out there about doing an effect like that, here's one from Creative Cow...

https://library.creativecow.net/article ... o-tutorial
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Re: How to achieve this made of Fire/smoke effect in aftereffect

Postby jahnihaze on 08/26/2015, 3:50 pm

Correct @Guitarboy2828 more like the female in the picture and essentially to any object i want Here are a couple more examples of what i am trying to achieve on video. Thanks for reply much appreciated!!


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Re: How to achieve this made of Fire/smoke effect in aftereffect

Postby jahnihaze on 08/26/2015, 3:53 pm

Farmfield wrote:There's lots of tutorials out there about doing an effect like that, here's one from Creative Cow...

https://library.creativecow.net/article ... o-tutorial


Thanks for quick reply are there any other tutorials explaining this? The one you posted is cool but im looking for a more realistic touch.
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Re: How to achieve this made of Fire/smoke effect in aftereffect

Postby jahnihaze on 08/26/2015, 4:15 pm

Guitarboy2828 wrote:I'm assuming you want to create a fire effect on the actual band members, not on a skeleton? or are you wanting it to look like the picture?


Correct @Guitarboy2828 more like the female in the picture and essentially to any object i want Here are a couple more examples of what i am trying to achieve on video. Thanks for reply much appreciated!!
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Re: How to achieve this made of Fire/smoke effect in aftereffect

Postby Farmfield on 08/26/2015, 4:42 pm

jahnihaze wrote:
Farmfield wrote:There's lots of tutorials out there about doing an effect like that, here's one from Creative Cow...

https://library.creativecow.net/article ... o-tutorial


Thanks for quick reply are there any other tutorials explaining this? The one you posted is cool but im looking for a more realistic touch.

For more realism, fluid sim in a 3D package like Blender is your best bet. To do that you need to key your footage and trace the alpha and extrude it, then use that as a fuel source for the simulation.
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Re: How to achieve this made of Fire/smoke effect in aftereffect

Postby star+circle on 08/27/2015, 12:18 am

Particular is another decent option:

https://vimeo.com/79823940
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Re: How to achieve this made of Fire/smoke effect in aftereffect

Postby jahnihaze on 08/27/2015, 5:19 am

Farmfield wrote:
jahnihaze wrote:
Farmfield wrote:There's lots of tutorials out there about doing an effect like that, here's one from Creative Cow...

https://library.creativecow.net/article ... o-tutorial


Thanks for quick reply are there any other tutorials explaining this? The one you posted is cool but im looking for a more realistic touch.

For more realism, fluid sim in a 3D package like Blender is your best bet. To do that you need to key your footage and trace the alpha and extrude it, then use that as a fuel source for the simulation.


Whoa Blender is a whole another ball game for me. Cant say i wont try it tho. Are there any tutorials explaining this on blender? Also are you saying that this look cant be achieved in after effects?
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Re: How to achieve this made of Fire/smoke effect in aftereffect

Postby Farmfield on 08/27/2015, 6:28 am

Asking if something isn't possible in After Effects is kind of a trick question, anything is possible - but if we're talking about automation, using plugins and filters (not hand drawing every frame), I would say it's really tricky to achive the quality of the pictures you posted a few posts back.

With that said, there's a lot of tricks you can use, you can use real fire elements with a particle system, Trapcode Form can create some fire-like effects from footage using them as maps for various functions, Trapcode Particular can also be used - and you can use a combination of them to get something new... You can also create motion vectors from your footage to drive these setups, you have that in the last video...







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Re: How to achieve this made of Fire/smoke effect in aftereffect

Postby jahnihaze on 08/28/2015, 7:35 am

Farmfield wrote:Asking if something isn't possible in After Effects is kind of a trick question, anything is possible - but if we're talking about automation, using plugins and filters (not hand drawing every frame), I would say it's really tricky to achive the quality of the pictures you posted a few posts back.

With that said, there's a lot of tricks you can use, you can use real fire elements with a particle system, Trapcode Form can create some fire-like effects from footage using them as maps for various functions, Trapcode Particular can also be used - and you can use a combination of them to get something new... You can also create motion vectors from your footage to drive these setups, you have that in the last video...










Thanks Farmfield really appreciate this, gonna see what i can do with combining these tuts, ill give you an update if things turn out well.
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