Element 3D in X-Men: Apocalypse

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Element 3D in X-Men: Apocalypse

Postby yeagerfilm on 03/17/2016, 9:35 am

It appears that the VFX crew for X-Men: Apocalypse are fans of Element 3D.

The titles at 2:07 appear to be E3D.


Also, in the first trailer they released, there were a bunch of quick "apocalypse" and destruction sequences at the beginning, one of which was E3D using Metropolitan buildings. Screen shot attached.
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Re: Element 3D in X-Men: Apocalypse

Postby ukilledkenny7 on 03/17/2016, 9:51 am

Very nice! I think you may be correct. Especially about the buildings. Though it's kind of hard to tell with text.
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Re: Element 3D in X-Men: Apocalypse

Postby Duncan on 03/17/2016, 10:50 am

It doesn't look like the letters are reflecting each other, a possible indication they were rendered with Element 3D.
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Re: Element 3D in X-Men: Apocalypse

Postby Farmfield on 03/17/2016, 1:42 pm

Well, first off, the VFX crew for the film has absolutely nothing to do with the specialist companies that produce the trailers and titles for the trailers. ;)

As for Element3D, as it's bound to After Effects, you won't see much use of that in feature film production as After Effects just isn't up to the task for that level of compositing.
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Re: Element 3D in X-Men: Apocalypse

Postby plae57 on 03/17/2016, 4:31 pm

Farmfield wrote:As for Element3D, as it's bound to After Effects, you won't see much use of that in feature film production as After Effects just isn't up to the task for that level of compositing.


I agree After Effects would be the wrong choice because if it's limited 3d environments, but perhaps they used the models from Metropolitan in a different compositor which may be why they look so familiar.
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Re: Element 3D in X-Men: Apocalypse

Postby Farmfield on 03/17/2016, 4:44 pm

plae57 wrote:
Farmfield wrote:As for Element3D, as it's bound to After Effects, you won't see much use of that in feature film production as After Effects just isn't up to the task for that level of compositing.


I agree After Effects would be the wrong choice because if it's limited 3d environments, but perhaps they used the models from Metropolitan in a different compositor which may be why they look so familiar.

In the trailer? No no, that's either taken from previz or created as a stand-in shot for something they'll have in the final movie, it can absolutely have been done in Element3D or whatever.

And it's always fun comparing effects in trailers with the final effects, here's a couple of examples...



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Re: Element 3D in X-Men: Apocalypse

Postby Duncan on 03/18/2016, 6:37 am

Farmfield wrote:As for Element3D, as it's bound to After Effects, you won't see much use of that in feature film production as After Effects just isn't up to the task for that level of compositing.


Pretty sure Andrew Kramer used Element 3D for the Star Trek titles and the Star Wars hologram sequences.
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Re: Element 3D in X-Men: Apocalypse

Postby Farmfield on 03/18/2016, 9:28 am

Duncan wrote:
Farmfield wrote:As for Element3D, as it's bound to After Effects, you won't see much use of that in feature film production as After Effects just isn't up to the task for that level of compositing.

Pretty sure Andrew Kramer used Element 3D for the Star Trek titles and the Star Wars hologram sequences.

None of which is feature film compositing. ;)

And there's no doubt AE is used in VFX work, lots of motion graphics on screens, etc, is absolutely done with AE, but due to the extreme limitations in working in 3D, color and matte handling, no real support for multi channel formats, no deep support, etc, AE is in no way up to par for high end compositing, that's just how it is.
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Re: Element 3D in X-Men: Apocalypse

Postby Dustin Hudson on 03/18/2016, 11:16 am

Nice catch on the metro buildings! Not 100% on the titles, could go either way but possible for sure.
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