burned skin effect

[Dj_MAnUliX]

Hello, I want to know how I can get this effect:

I ask you to be clear, because I do not understand English very well.

[Dj_MAnUliX]

[tony]

Wow.. there is no way to explain that while still being clear.. I will just say this, its a lot of textures with blend modes a bit of displacements and painting. not that hard really but you have to know photoshop well.

[RichardB]

Before trying to answer, do you want this to be a still image (photo) or a moving image, because the two techniques are very different.

[TC-Productions]

Seeing that this is posted in the Photoshop/Illustrator section, I suspect you're talking about a still image.

What you could do is (using Cinema4D for instance) import the image as a background to use as a reference, get a 3D model of a head, scale, tweak and position it so it aligns with your background image, apply a smouldering lava texture to it (including bump and displacement maps), render with alpha (without the background image of course), and then bring it together in Photoshop.

Then again, I may have no idea what I'm talking about ...

[tony]

Wow.. there is no way to explain that while still being clear.. I will just say this, its a lot of textures with blend modes a bit of displacements and painting. not that hard really but you have to know photoshop well.

So in other words, you have no idea.

I have no idea where you got that from but i will answer that again by simply restating what i already said...

You use textures with blend modes to create the cracking, you paint in the orange stuff, you use displacement maps to distort it a bit, add some glows here and there dodge and burn and ur done... the steps are a bit complicated so its hard to explain to a person who doesn't understand english well... and im not going to sit here and write a essay on how to do that effect, when you have google to hep you.

How you got the idea that i had no idea is beyond me but whatever. but then again what do i know, im just a graphic designer

[tony]

PS thats a CD cover so it would obviously be photosohoped. i think 3D software is overkill and would yield nearly as good results or as fast.

[RichardB]

PS thats a CD cover so it would obviously be photosohoped. i think 3D software is overkill and would yield nearly as good results or as fast.

He's asking how to get that effect, he hasn't said whether he wants that effect in 2d, 3d, still or moving.
This is what people - and clients, as you'll find out one day - do: they grab and image as reference, you then have to discover what they want.

I'm glad to hear you're a graphic designer now, last time I heard you were a film director.

[RichardB]

Okay, for a quick answer to your question, for a 2d still, it's just painting.
No textures, no dispacement, no blend modes, just simple painting.

Have a look.

The trick to it is to lay out a series of cracks that folloow the muscle and bone - paint them in - pref onto a new layer unless your confident.

With something like thisthe trickis to keep the colour range limited, so I sampled my high and low lights from the nose and eyesockets.

You can google some burning charcoal for reference but avoid clone painting, I thonk it would be hard to make it work.

the fire is only two colours: yellow and dull red: but you use them at low opacity and they create their own midtones.

Try and keep some logic to it - shadows oppose highlights, intense heat produces the deepest burn etc.

I did this retouch in a few minutes but you can see where it would go with more work.

I would note tht a wacom pressure sensitive pen is crucial to this kind of painting: while it could be done, I wuld find it agonising to use just a mouse.

play around, and good luck.

[tony]

PS thats a CD cover so it would obviously be photosohoped. i think 3D software is overkill and would yield nearly as good results or as fast.

He's asking how to get that effect, he hasn't said whether he wants that effect in 2d, 3d, still or moving.
This is what people - and clients, as you'll find out one day - do: they grab and image as reference, you then have to discover what they want.

I'm glad to hear you're a graphic designer now, last time I heard you were a film director.

I dabble in different things.. Graphic design is my major,but it served as a launch pad into doing motion graphics and knowing after effects sort off led into becoming a film maker... I gotta say all of them are fun


I assumed 2D because its posted in photoshop... I have done this type off effect before and i used rusted metal textures and u get that effects by tweaking and playing with glows, i have seen it before and that how i know people do it... Glad to see u posted a guide

[deadinseattle]

I would love to see someone ask Tony for directions...

Visitor: Excuse me, how do you get to the Town Hall?
Tony: Well, let me try to explain, there are some left hand turns, and some right hand turns, and some tricky streets, but really it's not hard if you have a map.

You hit that right on the head man.

Except tony would say, "LOL, you need directions? OMG, I hear this question 100x a day! You need to learn to be a cartographer before you can even comprehend my experienced direction giving skills!"

Anyways, OP, check this tutorial out. It will get you pointed in the right directions.

[tony]

The guy is asking ppl on how to do the effect, this effect has been done countless times. I am not going to sit here and write an essay, achieving the effect is a bit complicated and cannot be explained in a forum it’s something you have to learn.

He is just like the other guy that asked how to do a cgi car flip. Are you serious? You expect ppl to tell you how to do that on a forum? Thats something you do once u have taken classes dude. I told him the gist of it so he can figure it out on his own and maybe use google but hey, that’s just me go ahead.

Btw noticed how nobody really told him how to create the effect either, everyone just threw out random ideas. Achieving that effect takes lots of detailed steps.

Ps if someone asks for directions I give them simple direction turn here, here and here you should see it when u get there. Un like richard who would probably waste his day mapping it out for them with a compass and ruler, he'd probably even plan their trip on expedia along with weather forecasting, hell I think he would even go with them to make sure they get there.. How niice of him ...

But sure I’m probably wrong for not writing a tutorial. Richard if ur in a helping mood how bout you help these people too, I mean it’s not every day people ask how to do an effect right?

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[RichardB]

What you're missing Tony is that the sort of answer you gave, is a complete non-answer, which pretty much only serves to discourage the OP.

To say, " oh, it's done with blends and painting and loads of textures etc etc and you can do it if you know photoshop..." ...well, that answer virtually every question about how to achieve anything in photoshop, and yet it answers nothing at all.

Besides the fact that it wrong... as I showed, all it requires is a bit of painting - I added to the image in under 5 mins using just paint, so no textures blends etc. The effect was not complicated, and has been explained in the forum.

People are asking the forum in general, they are not asking - bothering - you in particular.
If you don't know or can't explain, then don't muddy the water by implying it's all some sort of Inner Circle advanced knowledge, when often, as in this case, it's just straightforward.

As for helping other people, if I can I will. I don't feel a complusion to answwr every post I see.
Sometimes - and this is the bit you need to grasp - you just shrug and move on.

[colpo]

Dj_MAnUliX: What's it for?

Playing with different textures, different blending modes and so on could yield pretty good results actually.

http://www.stockvault.net/tutorials/pho ... effect.php
http://www.webdesign.org/photoshop/phot ... 16610.html

Those tutorials might give you a start if you haven't done any of that before.

If you want to go the Wacom way as somebody suggested then i guess you have to think about if it's worth paying for a Wacom and getting comfortable using it just to make this effect (although a wacom is a nice thing to have if you do alot of graphic design, painting, retouch and such).

To make it to follow the lines of the face better it might be easier to use a Wacom also but again, is it worth the cost if you dont already own one? And besides, i've seen really great stuff painted with only a mouse so i guess in the end it's about how much time and money you want to put in to it.

Hope this helps as i don't think i would have gotten much out of previous answers if i was new to this.

//R

[unreal]

Aside from the jostling for attention you can create this many a ways. Painting, textures etc. I have done a similar thing where I used a peeling paint texture. I used it as a matte/layer mask for the cracks. I painted inside the mask twice (once for red, once for orange) but using a smaller selection area on each occassion. I then used some layer styles as well as painted dodge/burn to bring out the bump/highlights etc.

Hope this helped.

[tony]

What you're missing Tony is that the sort of answer you gave, is a complete non-answer, which pretty much only serves to discourage the OP.

To say, " oh, it's done with blends and painting and loads of textures etc etc and you can do it if you know photoshop..." ...well, that answer virtually every question about how to achieve anything in photoshop, and yet it answers nothing at all.

Besides the fact that it wrong... as I showed, all it requires is a bit of painting - I added to the image in under 5 mins using just paint, so no textures blends etc. The effect was not complicated, and has been explained in the forum.

People are asking the forum in general, they are not asking - bothering - you in particular.
If you don't know or can't explain, then don't muddy the water by implying it's all some sort of Inner Circle advanced knowledge, when often, as in this case, it's just straightforward.

As for helping other people, if I can I will. I don't feel a complusion to answwr every post I see.
Sometimes - and this is the bit you need to grasp - you just shrug and move on.

Yes you are very correct im sorry. Yes the FACT is that i am wrong and ur way is right because we all know there is only ONE way to do things in photoshop right?

Oh yeah and i must apologize for giving such a generic response what was i thinking by thelling the OP to use textures and a paint in some stuff. Here is my example done the wrong way as you can see its compleatly wrong and Richardb's way is obviously the right way.

The way i did this the wrong way was by using some TEXTURES! and very little PAINT! pretty much it. Now if you dont know photoshop then u would need to learn blend modes and masking and cloneing and all that but if u already know some photoshop then its TEXTURES! and some PAINT! and a bit of noise to match the textures to the skin, mask out parts you dont want, and some glow and you have just done it the wrong way.

PS: Richard you never gave clear instructions on how to do it, in fact your way needs a 500 wacom tablet yeah , and if the guy doesnt know how to paint (if he did he wouldn't be asking the question, or have a wacom tablet just lying around) your instructions probably confused him more.

[RichardB]

I said you gave a non-answer, an answer so vague as to be applicable to almost any Photoshop operation, and as useful as a bag of elbows.

I'm pleased to see I've finally provoked you into being specific... think how much time we could have all saved if you'd done that in the first place.

Very bored of this thread now, bye!

(How do I get to the next thread.... maybe I press some buttons and do some stuff in a browser, damn! If only I could write in binary machine code .... LOL)

[tony]

I said you gave a non-answer, an answer so vague as to be applicable to almost any Photoshop operation, and as useful as a bag of elbows.

I'm pleased to see I've finally provoked you into being specific... think how much time we could have all saved if you'd done that in the first place.

Very bored of this thread now, bye!

(How do I get to the next thread.... maybe I press some buttons and do some stuff in a browser, damn! If only I could write in binary machine code .... LOL)

I never changed my answer Like i said since the beginning, textures and paint, thats it. But hey some people (like ur self) like to be spoon fed, oh well

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