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Thor Ragnarok effect of explosion...How to?

PostPosted: 11/30/2017, 8:33 pm
by Director
I'm wondering how I can achieve this look in after effects

https://youtu.be/H84al-zYhq8?t=2m

It's Thor resisting an explosion of sorts. Now I can light my character/put a fan on them, but I cannot figure out what elements I'd need to make it look as realistic as this. Debriis, heat distortion, is the rest stock footage or 100% 3D?

I'm not sure how to proceed on my shot.

Re: Thor Ragnarok effect of explosion...How to?

PostPosted: 11/30/2017, 8:36 pm
by JPT7505
If you wanna try in AE alone, particular is your best bet.

Re: Thor Ragnarok effect of explosion...How to?

PostPosted: 12/1/2017, 3:09 am
by Director
JPT7505 wrote:If you wanna try in AE alone, particular is your best bet.

What would another method be? Cinema4d? I also have that and 3ds max.

https://youtu.be/Q0CbN8sfihY?t=50s

The rocks floating in this clip I am also trying to replicate, I have no idea how to recreate lol so I have a big project ahead with a heck of a learning curve

Re: Thor Ragnarok effect of explosion...How to?

PostPosted: 12/1/2017, 10:03 am
by JPT7505
The rocks could be done in Element rather easily.

Again on professional levels it's all done in dedicated 3d programs and particle systems but if you got the cash and can overcome steep learning curves go for it.

So yes, 3ds max could be used and c4d too, I forget the particle plugin (fume maybe for max and x particles for c4d) that could be used for the fire etc but you're gonna have to play with it.

Personally, it sounds like you took on a project you don't have sufficient experience to complete and these situations never end very well for anyone.

Re: Thor Ragnarok effect of explosion...How to?

PostPosted: 12/1/2017, 10:45 am
by Director
JPT7505 wrote:The rocks could be done in Element rather easily.

Again on professional levels it's all done in dedicated 3d programs and particle systems but if you got the cash and can overcome steep learning curves go for it.

So yes, 3ds max could be used and c4d too, I forget the particle plugin (fume maybe for max and x particles for c4d) that could be used for the fire etc but you're gonna have to play with it.

Personally, it sounds like you took on a project you don't have sufficient experience to complete and these situations never end very well for anyone.


It's a small instagram project, I can cheat a lot of the shots by keeping them very short! If I can't do it, I will pay but I would really like to learn along the way. :) Do you have any sort of tutorials?

Re: Thor Ragnarok effect of explosion...How to?

PostPosted: 12/3/2017, 6:34 pm
by JPT7505
There are plenty for element here but go to red giant or YouTube. Search man, search...

Re: Thor Ragnarok effect of explosion...How to?

PostPosted: 12/8/2017, 3:33 am
by prathamesh
try shooting with a high power blower and add a lot of dust and fire elements to it.
in the movie they used cg simulations created with dedicated softwares so you cannot replicate the look but you can get similar looking effect.
for the rocks you could use element 3d.

Re: Thor Ragnarok effect of explosion...How to?

PostPosted: 12/31/2017, 4:56 am
by fitzcostudios
believe it or not, people are getting fantastic results with limited work
using iclone 7.2 and popcorn fx.

note
the popcorn editor is free and you can download hundreds of working samples via the editor
and it can output image sequences, so you could use just that and composite it in ae.
https://www.popcornfx.com/download/

if you search on youtube "popcorn fx to ae" there is a tut with a script for easier intergration.